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Jonathan Haidt

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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

If you think about what you might call quick dopamine versus slow dopamine. So slow dopamine is, suppose a boy sets out to build a treehouse or a racing car. Every time it makes progress, that's rewarding. But you're going towards the goal. You're keeping focused. Now, this is what executive function is. Executive function is the ability to say, here's my goal. I'm going to do the hard work.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

Along the way, I get rewards for making progress. And when I'm done, it feels so good. Yeah, delayed gratification. That's right. So that's all really good. But what I'm coming to see is I underestimated what's happening to boys because I focus more on the girls because the data is just so much clearer on social media and girls.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

Along the way, I get rewards for making progress. And when I'm done, it feels so good. Yeah, delayed gratification. That's right. So that's all really good. But what I'm coming to see is I underestimated what's happening to boys because I focus more on the girls because the data is just so much clearer on social media and girls.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

Along the way, I get rewards for making progress. And when I'm done, it feels so good. Yeah, delayed gratification. That's right. So that's all really good. But what I'm coming to see is I underestimated what's happening to boys because I focus more on the girls because the data is just so much clearer on social media and girls.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

But with boys, they get the video games early and the video games are so much better than what I had. We had Pong. I would like the first video game. It was kind of fun. ColecoVision, I think. That's right. Atari, Asteroid. The boys, it starts with the video games, which is really quick dopamine. It's incredibly intense. They're beautiful. They're exciting.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

But with boys, they get the video games early and the video games are so much better than what I had. We had Pong. I would like the first video game. It was kind of fun. ColecoVision, I think. That's right. Atari, Asteroid. The boys, it starts with the video games, which is really quick dopamine. It's incredibly intense. They're beautiful. They're exciting.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

But with boys, they get the video games early and the video games are so much better than what I had. We had Pong. I would like the first video game. It was kind of fun. ColecoVision, I think. That's right. Atari, Asteroid. The boys, it starts with the video games, which is really quick dopamine. It's incredibly intense. They're beautiful. They're exciting.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

And many parents have observed once they let their boy play video games and a little bit is okay. I don't want to cause a panic here on video games, but if your kid is playing three hours of video games a day, seven days a week, probably that's going to have dopamine effects because they're in a state of deficit. And so everything else is more boring. Then we have to ramp it up. Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

And many parents have observed once they let their boy play video games and a little bit is okay. I don't want to cause a panic here on video games, but if your kid is playing three hours of video games a day, seven days a week, probably that's going to have dopamine effects because they're in a state of deficit. And so everything else is more boring. Then we have to ramp it up. Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

And many parents have observed once they let their boy play video games and a little bit is okay. I don't want to cause a panic here on video games, but if your kid is playing three hours of video games a day, seven days a week, probably that's going to have dopamine effects because they're in a state of deficit. And so everything else is more boring. Then we have to ramp it up. Okay.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

They're in school. They're bored. Let's give them gamified math. And we'll get them to gamify this and that. And oh, let's let them keep their phones on them, which is insane. A study just came out from Dimitri Kostakis. On average, American students, I think it was high school, spend an hour and a half a day in school on their phone.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

They're in school. They're bored. Let's give them gamified math. And we'll get them to gamify this and that. And oh, let's let them keep their phones on them, which is insane. A study just came out from Dimitri Kostakis. On average, American students, I think it was high school, spend an hour and a half a day in school on their phone.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

They're in school. They're bored. Let's give them gamified math. And we'll get them to gamify this and that. And oh, let's let them keep their phones on them, which is insane. A study just came out from Dimitri Kostakis. On average, American students, I think it was high school, spend an hour and a half a day in school on their phone.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

Again, if you gamify, gamify, gamify, then the rest of life is incredibly boring. And that includes talking to people. We're really doing our kids a disservice. Oh, and then I haven't even mentioned the vaping and the marijuana pens and the crypto gambling and sports betting. You get the sense from my book that the girls are in worse shape than the boys, but I'm realizing that's not true.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

Again, if you gamify, gamify, gamify, then the rest of life is incredibly boring. And that includes talking to people. We're really doing our kids a disservice. Oh, and then I haven't even mentioned the vaping and the marijuana pens and the crypto gambling and sports betting. You get the sense from my book that the girls are in worse shape than the boys, but I'm realizing that's not true.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

Again, if you gamify, gamify, gamify, then the rest of life is incredibly boring. And that includes talking to people. We're really doing our kids a disservice. Oh, and then I haven't even mentioned the vaping and the marijuana pens and the crypto gambling and sports betting. You get the sense from my book that the girls are in worse shape than the boys, but I'm realizing that's not true.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

At age 14, the girls are in worse shape because the boys have these amazing video games. They've got incredible porn. They're enjoying their dopamine-filled pursuits, but I think they're harming their brains more even than the girls are. Which helps explain why girls are making progress career wise. Boys are increasingly living at home with their parents because they're less suited for employment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

At age 14, the girls are in worse shape because the boys have these amazing video games. They've got incredible porn. They're enjoying their dopamine-filled pursuits, but I think they're harming their brains more even than the girls are. Which helps explain why girls are making progress career wise. Boys are increasingly living at home with their parents because they're less suited for employment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

At age 14, the girls are in worse shape because the boys have these amazing video games. They've got incredible porn. They're enjoying their dopamine-filled pursuits, but I think they're harming their brains more even than the girls are. Which helps explain why girls are making progress career wise. Boys are increasingly living at home with their parents because they're less suited for employment.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)

If you have any influence, try to roll this back. It's insane that this has been legalized. This is just fishing. for boys dopamine circuits. Richard Reeves wrote of boys and men. He told me that when sports betting is legalized in a state, the number of bankruptcies goes up very quickly. And that's mostly young men. And so we're just destroying young men and their futures.