Jonathan Haidt
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This is one of the most fun aspects of the book as we go deep in chapter three on play and exploration into research. There's a Norwegian play researcher, Ellen Sandsater. She says there are seven different kinds of thrills, high speeds, great heights, dangerous tools, hiding and getting lost. There are all these risks. And kids are seeking them out.
They're trying to get the right level of it because that's how you train your brain about where the borders are, what you're capable of. That's how you extend your abilities. You definitely want to always do a safety inspection. You want to make sure there's nothing that can kill them. Traffic and then swimming pool. A lot of kids did used to die from drowning. Drowning is serious.
They're trying to get the right level of it because that's how you train your brain about where the borders are, what you're capable of. That's how you extend your abilities. You definitely want to always do a safety inspection. You want to make sure there's nothing that can kill them. Traffic and then swimming pool. A lot of kids did used to die from drowning. Drowning is serious.
They're trying to get the right level of it because that's how you train your brain about where the borders are, what you're capable of. That's how you extend your abilities. You definitely want to always do a safety inspection. You want to make sure there's nothing that can kill them. Traffic and then swimming pool. A lot of kids did used to die from drowning. Drowning is serious.
You need to be very careful about drowning. But climbing a tree and falling out and getting scraped up or possibly breaking an arm, that's something that should be a feature, not a bug, that there are risks.
You need to be very careful about drowning. But climbing a tree and falling out and getting scraped up or possibly breaking an arm, that's something that should be a feature, not a bug, that there are risks.
You need to be very careful about drowning. But climbing a tree and falling out and getting scraped up or possibly breaking an arm, that's something that should be a feature, not a bug, that there are risks.
What you're doing here is you're recapitulating The exact thing we started with about does moral judgment come from your gut or from your head and your calculations? Am I the elephant or the rider? You are the rider. The rider is the small, the little.
What you're doing here is you're recapitulating The exact thing we started with about does moral judgment come from your gut or from your head and your calculations? Am I the elephant or the rider? You are the rider. The rider is the small, the little.
What you're doing here is you're recapitulating The exact thing we started with about does moral judgment come from your gut or from your head and your calculations? Am I the elephant or the rider? You are the rider. The rider is the small, the little.
Right. The gut response is why should you take any risk? Whereas if you think about it, you realize, wait, if I don't train my child how to take risk, I'm crippling this child. I am creating a child that won't be able to deal with the world. And that's what we've done.
Right. The gut response is why should you take any risk? Whereas if you think about it, you realize, wait, if I don't train my child how to take risk, I'm crippling this child. I am creating a child that won't be able to deal with the world. And that's what we've done.
Right. The gut response is why should you take any risk? Whereas if you think about it, you realize, wait, if I don't train my child how to take risk, I'm crippling this child. I am creating a child that won't be able to deal with the world. And that's what we've done.
That's right. And so here, let me just put in the term anti-fragility, one of the most powerful and important words, a word coined by Nassim Taleb, who's kind of a polymath, interesting, brilliant guy with some affiliation at New York University. And he pointed out there's a need for a word that describes systems that get better when they get challenged or threatened even.
That's right. And so here, let me just put in the term anti-fragility, one of the most powerful and important words, a word coined by Nassim Taleb, who's kind of a polymath, interesting, brilliant guy with some affiliation at New York University. And he pointed out there's a need for a word that describes systems that get better when they get challenged or threatened even.
That's right. And so here, let me just put in the term anti-fragility, one of the most powerful and important words, a word coined by Nassim Taleb, who's kind of a polymath, interesting, brilliant guy with some affiliation at New York University. And he pointed out there's a need for a word that describes systems that get better when they get challenged or threatened even.
So the immune system is the classic example. If you protect your kid's immune system, you don't let any dirt or germs come in. You're crippling it because the system is designed to learn from the challenges, learn from the dirt and germs that get in. And so it's the same thing here. Kids are antifragile.
So the immune system is the classic example. If you protect your kid's immune system, you don't let any dirt or germs come in. You're crippling it because the system is designed to learn from the challenges, learn from the dirt and germs that get in. And so it's the same thing here. Kids are antifragile.
So the immune system is the classic example. If you protect your kid's immune system, you don't let any dirt or germs come in. You're crippling it because the system is designed to learn from the challenges, learn from the dirt and germs that get in. And so it's the same thing here. Kids are antifragile.
And if you treat them like they're fragile, you don't want to take any risks, then you're blocking their development. And just as they'll have autoimmune diseases, if you don't let them be exposed to dirt and germs, they'll have all kinds of psychological and anxiety related disorders if you don't let them.