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Jonathan Haidt

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TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

It's as simple as this.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

If you're a parent listening to this, and you have kids under the age of 12, let's say, just reach out to two other parents of your kids' friends and say,

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

we want to do the four norms.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

We want to do the four norms from the anxious generation.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

Are you with me?

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

And they probably will be with you.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

The four norms are no smartphone till high school, around 14, no social media till 16, phone-free schools, and so parents can push the school to go phone-free, and the fourth is

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

is far more independence, free play, and responsibility in the real world.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

That's the hardest one because that requires us to change.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

But it's the most important in that if we're going to take the screens, the 10 hours a day of screen time, take that away from kids, we have to give them back an exciting childhood.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

Yes, they certainly could make changes, but they're in a collective action trap, too.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

We know this from Francis Haugen, who brought out the Facebook files.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

Facebook is actively recruiting underage kids.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

They really need those kids.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

And they know that if they were to crack down, those kids would just go to TikTok.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

So the tech company certainly could solve this, but they're in a collective action problem, too, because if one of them does the right thing, then the kids will just lie about their age and go somewhere else.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

Also, Congress gave them immunity.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

The courts have interpreted Section 230 very broadly so that if your kids are harmed by anything that they saw online, well, Section 230 says you can't sue the company.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

So these are the biggest, most powerful, richest companies in the world.

TED Talks Daily
TED Talks Daily Book Club | Are smartphones ruining childhood? | Jonathan Haidt

They've been given free reign to own our kids' childhood.