Jonathan Haidt

Yeah.

I think it was pretty obvious.

I think it was only their preconceived notions that were keeping them from admitting it before or at least looking at it before.

Or maybe they don't have children.

Could be that.

I think a lot of older people, particularly boomers, they're a little bit disconnected from it because they're not, unless they're addicted to Twitter, they're not engaging in this stuff.

Yeah, and even watching too much TV, I don't agree that they turned out okay.

I think it had a pervasive effect.

It did, but nothing like this.

It's also an extraordinary amount of wasted resources.

I'm always embarrassed when I look at my phone.

When I see my screen time, like four hours, like that's four hours I could have done so many different things with.

Yeah.

When you are now talking to people that agree that this is an issue, what what changed?

Did you send the data to Jamie so he could pull it up?

Yeah, let's pause real quick so you can give out... Jamie will give you the email address.

Okay, we're back.

What are those things?

Missing childhood.

Do they do that anymore, the milk carton thing?