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which we get a little pulse of it whenever we do something which is good for us in terms of like biological, like we get food or sex or even companionship. We get a little bit of dopamine that tells us, ooh, that was good, do it again. Ooh, that was good, do it again. And so if you work for something and then you get that, that's great.
which we get a little pulse of it whenever we do something which is good for us in terms of like biological, like we get food or sex or even companionship. We get a little bit of dopamine that tells us, ooh, that was good, do it again. Ooh, that was good, do it again. And so if you work for something and then you get that, that's great.
which we get a little pulse of it whenever we do something which is good for us in terms of like biological, like we get food or sex or even companionship. We get a little bit of dopamine that tells us, ooh, that was good, do it again. Ooh, that was good, do it again. And so if you work for something and then you get that, that's great.
That's what you want for your child to learn that work pays off. But what they did in Silicon Valley was they figured out how to hack the system How can we give kids a little hit of dopamine without them doing anything hard? Like, oh, just swipe, oh, something's entertaining. Swipe, oh, somebody liked your post.
That's what you want for your child to learn that work pays off. But what they did in Silicon Valley was they figured out how to hack the system How can we give kids a little hit of dopamine without them doing anything hard? Like, oh, just swipe, oh, something's entertaining. Swipe, oh, somebody liked your post.
That's what you want for your child to learn that work pays off. But what they did in Silicon Valley was they figured out how to hack the system How can we give kids a little hit of dopamine without them doing anything hard? Like, oh, just swipe, oh, something's entertaining. Swipe, oh, somebody liked your post.
So what they've done is they've figured out how to tap into our kids' reward systems, give them lots of quick little hits of dopamine, which makes them all addicted, or the great majority of our kids are literally addicted. It's as though they passed out candy that was laced with cocaine. The kids took it. It was sweet. It made them feel really good.
So what they've done is they've figured out how to tap into our kids' reward systems, give them lots of quick little hits of dopamine, which makes them all addicted, or the great majority of our kids are literally addicted. It's as though they passed out candy that was laced with cocaine. The kids took it. It was sweet. It made them feel really good.
So what they've done is they've figured out how to tap into our kids' reward systems, give them lots of quick little hits of dopamine, which makes them all addicted, or the great majority of our kids are literally addicted. It's as though they passed out candy that was laced with cocaine. The kids took it. It was sweet. It made them feel really good.
And then they get really upset when you take the candy away because they are literally addicted. That is what has happened at a global scale to our children.
And then they get really upset when you take the candy away because they are literally addicted. That is what has happened at a global scale to our children.
And then they get really upset when you take the candy away because they are literally addicted. That is what has happened at a global scale to our children.
Yes, that's right. That's right. For girls, they do it through social media. For girls, they do it with social rewards. And for boys, they do it especially with video games and pornography and gambling and vaping. Well, vaping is separate. But the point is the addiction is really devastating for the boys. And the social media, I think, is more devastating for the girls.
Yes, that's right. That's right. For girls, they do it through social media. For girls, they do it with social rewards. And for boys, they do it especially with video games and pornography and gambling and vaping. Well, vaping is separate. But the point is the addiction is really devastating for the boys. And the social media, I think, is more devastating for the girls.
Yes, that's right. That's right. For girls, they do it through social media. For girls, they do it with social rewards. And for boys, they do it especially with video games and pornography and gambling and vaping. Well, vaping is separate. But the point is the addiction is really devastating for the boys. And the social media, I think, is more devastating for the girls.
Catherine, how are you explaining it in the book? Go ahead, Catherine. What do you want to say?
Catherine, how are you explaining it in the book? Go ahead, Catherine. What do you want to say?
Catherine, how are you explaining it in the book? Go ahead, Catherine. What do you want to say?
I'll just start by saying first, does your son have a flip phone or a basic phone now or does he have nothing?
I'll just start by saying first, does your son have a flip phone or a basic phone now or does he have nothing?