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Jonathan Haidt

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What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

That's right. Girls and women have a more developed sense of social relationships. They have a map in their head. It's a common joke, whereas a lot of men have to say, honey, how do I know that person? They're my friend. So girls and women, they're more interested in it. They're more socially savvy. And so they all rush onto Instagram, especially around 2012, and now they're in it.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

That's right. Girls and women have a more developed sense of social relationships. They have a map in their head. It's a common joke, whereas a lot of men have to say, honey, how do I know that person? They're my friend. So girls and women, they're more interested in it. They're more socially savvy. And so they all rush onto Instagram, especially around 2012, and now they're in it.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

Okay, but once they're in it, and this is pushing out real-world relationships, it's pushing out gossiping with two friends in person, what are they looking at? They're looking at photos of each other who are often enhanced or at least carefully selected to look at their best. So on average, the average woman is below average, at least compared to what she sees.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

Okay, but once they're in it, and this is pushing out real-world relationships, it's pushing out gossiping with two friends in person, what are they looking at? They're looking at photos of each other who are often enhanced or at least carefully selected to look at their best. So on average, the average woman is below average, at least compared to what she sees.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

And so that's the healthy stuff, just seeing your friends. Okay, then there's all the influencers. Kids need role models. I have a whole chapter in the book on puberty. Part of what's happening at puberty is you're making the transition from child to adult. And so you're looking desperately for role models. I'm a girl. How do I become a woman? Oh, I should, you know, I dress this way.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

And so that's the healthy stuff, just seeing your friends. Okay, then there's all the influencers. Kids need role models. I have a whole chapter in the book on puberty. Part of what's happening at puberty is you're making the transition from child to adult. And so you're looking desperately for role models. I'm a girl. How do I become a woman? Oh, I should, you know, I dress this way.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

I wear makeup. And if girls are exposed to inappropriate influencers, this is why we now have 9- and 10-year-old girls going to Sephora buying euthanizing.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

I wear makeup. And if girls are exposed to inappropriate influencers, this is why we now have 9- and 10-year-old girls going to Sephora buying euthanizing.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

So it's completely insane. So just exposing girls to all these models that show them what matters about you is your looks. What matters about you is your skin, your hair, your breasts. That's what matters. And that's what you have to be conscious of. This is a terrible thing to do to girls during the most difficult period of their lives. But it gets darker.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

So it's completely insane. So just exposing girls to all these models that show them what matters about you is your looks. What matters about you is your skin, your hair, your breasts. That's what matters. And that's what you have to be conscious of. This is a terrible thing to do to girls during the most difficult period of their lives. But it gets darker.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

So suppose a girl wants to be thin because there's so much pressure to be thin. So she types in something about dieting on Instagram or TikTok. And many reporters and attorneys general and law enforcement agents have done this. You create an account. You say you're a 13-year-old girl. You say, give me stuff on dieting. And before you know it, you're getting eating disorder stuff.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

So suppose a girl wants to be thin because there's so much pressure to be thin. So she types in something about dieting on Instagram or TikTok. And many reporters and attorneys general and law enforcement agents have done this. You create an account. You say you're a 13-year-old girl. You say, give me stuff on dieting. And before you know it, you're getting eating disorder stuff.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

You know, like no food tastes as good as being thin.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

You know, like no food tastes as good as being thin.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

The one is, what is it? Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Thank you. That's what I was trying to remember. Yeah. So this is a really sick thing to do to girls. And at the same time, the screen-based life is causing them to be more obese. So we have a whole generation that I think the average is 12 minutes of vigorous exercise a day and 8 to 10 hours of screen time a day, not including school.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

The one is, what is it? Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Thank you. That's what I was trying to remember. Yeah. So this is a really sick thing to do to girls. And at the same time, the screen-based life is causing them to be more obese. So we have a whole generation that I think the average is 12 minutes of vigorous exercise a day and 8 to 10 hours of screen time a day, not including school.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

The phone-based childhood is making them heavier while at the same time telling the girls you have to be thinner, which is almost impossible to do. The other thing that is important about girls is that they're more emotionally connected. They're more emotionally savvy. They pick up more when someone is feeling something but doesn't express it. Whereas boys are a little more clueless.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

The phone-based childhood is making them heavier while at the same time telling the girls you have to be thinner, which is almost impossible to do. The other thing that is important about girls is that they're more emotionally connected. They're more emotionally savvy. They pick up more when someone is feeling something but doesn't express it. Whereas boys are a little more clueless.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

So the point is, boys are on together. They're not really picking up each other's emotions. They're just laughing about, you know, sports or war or sex or funny videos. Right. When girls get on, they're just much more sensitive to the emotions being expressed, and they take on each other's emotions more. And I think this can explain a mystery in the data.

What Now? with Trevor Noah
The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

So the point is, boys are on together. They're not really picking up each other's emotions. They're just laughing about, you know, sports or war or sex or funny videos. Right. When girls get on, they're just much more sensitive to the emotions being expressed, and they take on each other's emotions more. And I think this can explain a mystery in the data.