Jonathan Haidt

But anyway, try to keep your kids off from opening a social media account, especially TikTok and Instagram and Snapchat, until they're 16. The third norm is phone-free schools. If you can text your child during the day, during class... That's a problem.

But anyway, try to keep your kids off from opening a social media account, especially TikTok and Instagram and Snapchat, until they're 16. The third norm is phone-free schools. If you can text your child during the day, during class... That's a problem.

That means that all the kids are texting each other, and everyone has to check, because nobody wants to be the one kid at lunch who didn't know about the thing that happened in the third period. So...

That means that all the kids are texting each other, and everyone has to check, because nobody wants to be the one kid at lunch who didn't know about the thing that happened in the third period. So...

So schools must take the phone in the morning, put it in a locker or a locked pouch, a yonder pouch, or just a manila envelope in the front of homeroom or by the teacher's desk, but take the phones away in the morning and phone watches and AirPods, everything, give it back when they leave, and that way they pay attention to the teacher and the other kids. That's what we want.

So schools must take the phone in the morning, put it in a locker or a locked pouch, a yonder pouch, or just a manila envelope in the front of homeroom or by the teacher's desk, but take the phones away in the morning and phone watches and AirPods, everything, give it back when they leave, and that way they pay attention to the teacher and the other kids. That's what we want.

The fourth norm is the hardest, and we've already been talking about it. The fourth norm is far more free play, independence, and responsibility in the real world. Because the point here isn't just, you know, let's take away the screens. The point is, let's give them back an amazing childhood. They need fun. They need interaction.

The fourth norm is the hardest, and we've already been talking about it. The fourth norm is far more free play, independence, and responsibility in the real world. Because the point here isn't just, you know, let's take away the screens. The point is, let's give them back an amazing childhood. They need fun. They need interaction.

They need to wrestle, put their arms around each other, laugh together, eat together. So we've got to give them back more time together. And that's hard because we don't trust our neighbors anymore. It's hard to just say, go out and play.

They need to wrestle, put their arms around each other, laugh together, eat together. So we've got to give them back more time together. And that's hard because we don't trust our neighbors anymore. It's hard to just say, go out and play.

Okay, I get what you mean. Your grandmother told you. You travel around the world. Sometimes you don't see girls, but you always see boys playing in the street. Yes. The third space is the street.

Okay, I get what you mean. Your grandmother told you. You travel around the world. Sometimes you don't see girls, but you always see boys playing in the street. Yes. The third space is the street.

So we would close the street with bricks. You take responsibility.

So we would close the street with bricks. You take responsibility.

So if you're listening to this, I'm not talking about the highway. This was just an informal thing you did.

So if you're listening to this, I'm not talking about the highway. This was just an informal thing you did.

You literally just have to claim it back collectively. I think that's really good because what you're saying is we have to be much more deliberate about this. My parents grew up in New York City. It was very similar. They'd play stickball in the street. If a car's coming, you step back. Exactly. So we can't just say to our kids, you know, you're nine years old. Get out of here.

You literally just have to claim it back collectively. I think that's really good because what you're saying is we have to be much more deliberate about this. My parents grew up in New York City. It was very similar. They'd play stickball in the street. If a car's coming, you step back. Exactly. So we can't just say to our kids, you know, you're nine years old. Get out of here.

Don't come back till the streetlights come on. Don't come back till dinner. In some parts of America, you can do that. There are rural parts or places where people trust their neighbors. But especially for those of us in cities, we're going to have to be a lot more deliberate.

Don't come back till the streetlights come on. Don't come back till dinner. In some parts of America, you can do that. There are rural parts or places where people trust their neighbors. But especially for those of us in cities, we're going to have to be a lot more deliberate.