Jonathan Herzog

But it's really as simple as we have this body called Congress with 400 plus representatives, House of Representatives from across the country, and you write it into law.

that data is a property right, data is a fundamental, and that these are fundamental rights of ownership.

And just like every other positive right that we've enshrined into our constitution or through any statute, it's something you write on paper.

Totally.

I think it's important to offer the contrast of basically how it works now.

Facebook is a great example.

You log in, we all agree without having read any of the click wrap agreements,

We've signed and provided our consent for our data to be sold and resold.

We saw this happen in the Cambridge Analytica scandal where if even a friend or a friend of a friend, they're 60 million people.

The way we interact with our data is as such.

I got a push notification from Facebook saying, Hey, we apologize.

We're so sincerely sorry.

You were one of the 60 million whose friends or friends of friends data may have been breached in the Cambridge analytical scandal.

Sorry.

And in any other context, any other sector of the economy, um, that just would not hold.

And the reality is data is the new oil and Yuval Harari put it best.

He said, whoever controls the algorithms,

is the government and so there are many ways to fundamentally rethink so um so people like tristan harris and other design ethicists like this goes into the fundamental architecture of the apps and how we interact with the software so right now we just assume we're going to get a freemium service right we're going to get the free service whether that be google maps or the search engine or facebook or what have you in exchange for our data

But we're not even making that choice consciously.

It's just how it is.