Jonathan Hirsch
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This Black Lords shit was getting weird. The teachers began to perform detailed rituals designed to protect themselves from the Black Lords. They accumulated various tools, wands, swords, and these weapons alongside their spiritual energy would be used to battle the Black Lords.
So the groups of followers would be engaged in a choreographed battle, fighting the Black Lords with bronze talismans.
So the groups of followers would be engaged in a choreographed battle, fighting the Black Lords with bronze talismans.
So the groups of followers would be engaged in a choreographed battle, fighting the Black Lords with bronze talismans.
Wait, what? Bloodletting? I'd read and heard a lot of out there stuff about Terry's beliefs at this point, but this was a dark turn. Terry believed that the Black Lords were poisoning the blood of her students, and the only way to cleanse them, and there's no easy way to say this, was to extract their blood.
Wait, what? Bloodletting? I'd read and heard a lot of out there stuff about Terry's beliefs at this point, but this was a dark turn. Terry believed that the Black Lords were poisoning the blood of her students, and the only way to cleanse them, and there's no easy way to say this, was to extract their blood.
Wait, what? Bloodletting? I'd read and heard a lot of out there stuff about Terry's beliefs at this point, but this was a dark turn. Terry believed that the Black Lords were poisoning the blood of her students, and the only way to cleanse them, and there's no easy way to say this, was to extract their blood.
It was bizarre. Terry had seemingly crossed a line, and Janine knew it. But also, nothing bad enough had happened to her to leave. She was a frog in boiling water.
It was bizarre. Terry had seemingly crossed a line, and Janine knew it. But also, nothing bad enough had happened to her to leave. She was a frog in boiling water.
It was bizarre. Terry had seemingly crossed a line, and Janine knew it. But also, nothing bad enough had happened to her to leave. She was a frog in boiling water.
It's probably hard for someone who hasn't been through an experience like this to appreciate how difficult it would have been to leave. Janine wasn't being physically harmed, and she trusted the path Terry had set everyone on. She was smart and trusting, but that, I know for a fact, doesn't stop people from joining cults.
It's probably hard for someone who hasn't been through an experience like this to appreciate how difficult it would have been to leave. Janine wasn't being physically harmed, and she trusted the path Terry had set everyone on. She was smart and trusting, but that, I know for a fact, doesn't stop people from joining cults.
It's probably hard for someone who hasn't been through an experience like this to appreciate how difficult it would have been to leave. Janine wasn't being physically harmed, and she trusted the path Terry had set everyone on. She was smart and trusting, but that, I know for a fact, doesn't stop people from joining cults.
It actually makes it easier for you to rationalize weird and dangerous shit because you can find a reason it might be good for you in the long run. The thoughts about leaving Terry were growing in Janine's mind, blooming out of a black seed, a seed poisoned by a leader who now seemed completely divorced from reality so as to be alarming.
It actually makes it easier for you to rationalize weird and dangerous shit because you can find a reason it might be good for you in the long run. The thoughts about leaving Terry were growing in Janine's mind, blooming out of a black seed, a seed poisoned by a leader who now seemed completely divorced from reality so as to be alarming.
It actually makes it easier for you to rationalize weird and dangerous shit because you can find a reason it might be good for you in the long run. The thoughts about leaving Terry were growing in Janine's mind, blooming out of a black seed, a seed poisoned by a leader who now seemed completely divorced from reality so as to be alarming.
Janine couldn't confirm for me when she officially left CDBMS, but it was in the mid to late 70s, late 76, early 77. And Terry did not take it well.
Janine couldn't confirm for me when she officially left CDBMS, but it was in the mid to late 70s, late 76, early 77. And Terry did not take it well.
Janine couldn't confirm for me when she officially left CDBMS, but it was in the mid to late 70s, late 76, early 77. And Terry did not take it well.
I've heard other accounts of Terry doing this, calling out specific members or enemies and announcing that they were a black lord, a danger to the group. But now Janine heard her son was a target, a little kid.