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Jonathan Hirsch

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

And of course, the oddest gap year in history, Bart's flight to Mexico under an alias.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Yeah, and this case is fascinating to sort of walk through the trial and everything leading up to it.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

The prosecutor, Fred Felkman, he said during the trial, there's this term they use in psycholingo, psychobabble of sociopath.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

In other words, a person who knows he's doing something wrong but doesn't really care.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

The old time Texas thing was, he's a mean old son of a bitch, okay?

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Yeah.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

They knew what they were getting into, and they weren't about to mince words, regardless of the sort of nuanced moral territory that Kent was trafficking in.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Exactly.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

And this other prosecutor was sort of saying, like, this is an act of betrayal.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

It doesn't get any worse than this.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

The law has to be commensurate with the crime.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Yeah, and I mean, he's up against a governor who historically has not been particularly keen on commuting these kinds of sentences.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

So after six days of testimony in the trial,

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

including evidence from Steve, the physical items that were recovered from Lake Conroe, the record of Bart's lies, the jury deliberates for just a few hours.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Yeah, I mean, they knew what they were up against.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

So they find Bart guilty of capital murder.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

And during the penalty phase, Bart actually took the stand, which is really interesting.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

He said, I'm 100% guilty for this.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

I put the plan in motion.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

If I had not done so, it would not have happened.