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Jonathan Rauch

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
104 total appearances

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Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

Well, it was painful.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

I'll tell you that.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

This was the article I had hoped never to write.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

A year ago in The Atlantic, I wrote an article saying that Trump was not a fascist.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

He's a patrimonialist.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

And that's a style of government that you find not only in states, but in the mafia, criminal organizations, cults, political machines, where the state is, in effect, the personal property and family business of the leader.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

And in that situation, the head of state will go rampage through the bureaucracy, cutting through rules and replacing people with personal loyalists.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

And then things get very corrupt and they get very incompetent.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

And that's clearly what we were seeing.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

And that, I think, uncontroversially applied to Trump.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

But patrimonialism, it's not ideological.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

It's not especially aggressive.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

It's not interested in the use of force or taking over other countries.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

And it could have just been about Trump and enrichment.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

And I thought initially that's probably where things were headed.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

But over the course of the last year, and specifically over the course of the past few weeks and couple of months,

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

We saw the emergence of so many properties that are associated with fascism that to me it became perverse to withhold the label.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#456 โ€” American Fascism

So I finally dropped my resistance, sat down, thought of all the things I could think of that are usually associated with fascism.

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