Jonathan Ross

everything's about downside protection whereas in the u.s it's like that was a great effort you failed but i'm going to fund you again right so there's that difference but when you look at the u.s and then you look at china china practices rdt research development theft it's just part of the culture and it's not just against western companies it's against each other too the difference is if you're a western company

then the government steals from the Western company and then provides it to the Chinese companies, which is less fair. The famous stories of turning on Huawei switches and you see Cisco's logo and all the bugs, right? So is that a new paradigm? I really hope not. Like for Europe to compete with the US, Europe has to adopt a more risk on attitude.

then the government steals from the Western company and then provides it to the Chinese companies, which is less fair. The famous stories of turning on Huawei switches and you see Cisco's logo and all the bugs, right? So is that a new paradigm? I really hope not. Like for Europe to compete with the US, Europe has to adopt a more risk on attitude.

then the government steals from the Western company and then provides it to the Chinese companies, which is less fair. The famous stories of turning on Huawei switches and you see Cisco's logo and all the bugs, right? So is that a new paradigm? I really hope not. Like for Europe to compete with the US, Europe has to adopt a more risk on attitude.

Does the West have to adopt a more theft on attitude? I really hope not. Like that's just like viscerally disgusting to me. I'm like literally repulsed by the idea.

Does the West have to adopt a more theft on attitude? I really hope not. Like that's just like viscerally disgusting to me. I'm like literally repulsed by the idea.

Does the West have to adopt a more theft on attitude? I really hope not. Like that's just like viscerally disgusting to me. I'm like literally repulsed by the idea.

And then everyone is taking steroids. Whereas if no one was taking it, then everyone's healthier and you have a real competition. Yeah, it's a real problem. And the question is, can governments get involved? Here's the thing. I would love nothing more than to compete directly with Chinese companies on a fair footing. They have really smart people. DeepSeek has proven this. Really smart people.

And then everyone is taking steroids. Whereas if no one was taking it, then everyone's healthier and you have a real competition. Yeah, it's a real problem. And the question is, can governments get involved? Here's the thing. I would love nothing more than to compete directly with Chinese companies on a fair footing. They have really smart people. DeepSeek has proven this. Really smart people.

And then everyone is taking steroids. Whereas if no one was taking it, then everyone's healthier and you have a real competition. Yeah, it's a real problem. And the question is, can governments get involved? Here's the thing. I would love nothing more than to compete directly with Chinese companies on a fair footing. They have really smart people. DeepSeek has proven this. Really smart people.

But when the government keeps putting its thumb on the scale, we're going to try and avoid that competition wherever we can. And now there's no avoiding it. Maybe the governments just have to get involved.

But when the government keeps putting its thumb on the scale, we're going to try and avoid that competition wherever we can. And now there's no avoiding it. Maybe the governments just have to get involved.

But when the government keeps putting its thumb on the scale, we're going to try and avoid that competition wherever we can. And now there's no avoiding it. Maybe the governments just have to get involved.

Okay, and it gets worse than that. China has a lot of advantages. The chief advantage is the number of people they have. Now, number of people is not sufficient. So you also have India. And India has an advantage from the number of people, but China has out-executed. In fact, India was asking China for some time to help build out the roads and infrastructure. They've really mastered that, right?

Okay, and it gets worse than that. China has a lot of advantages. The chief advantage is the number of people they have. Now, number of people is not sufficient. So you also have India. And India has an advantage from the number of people, but China has out-executed. In fact, India was asking China for some time to help build out the roads and infrastructure. They've really mastered that, right?

Okay, and it gets worse than that. China has a lot of advantages. The chief advantage is the number of people they have. Now, number of people is not sufficient. So you also have India. And India has an advantage from the number of people, but China has out-executed. In fact, India was asking China for some time to help build out the roads and infrastructure. They've really mastered that, right?

But people and sort of organization, discipline, alignment, right? And so what is the concern with AI? The concern with AI is, What if an LP or GPU becomes the equivalent of a contributor to the workforce? And you could literally just add more to the GDP by creating more chips and providing more power. Now, if that becomes the case, does China's advantage erode?

But people and sort of organization, discipline, alignment, right? And so what is the concern with AI? The concern with AI is, What if an LP or GPU becomes the equivalent of a contributor to the workforce? And you could literally just add more to the GDP by creating more chips and providing more power. Now, if that becomes the case, does China's advantage erode?

But people and sort of organization, discipline, alignment, right? And so what is the concern with AI? The concern with AI is, What if an LP or GPU becomes the equivalent of a contributor to the workforce? And you could literally just add more to the GDP by creating more chips and providing more power. Now, if that becomes the case, does China's advantage erode?

They're concerned that in terms of workforce, the US could catch up, the West could catch up. And then at the same time, they have a huge population advantage. And this is why I so much want for Europe to get into the fight on AI. There's 500 million people who could be jumping into this.