Jonathan Ross

So I think meta is sort of, because of the network effect thing, always in a position where open source is to their advantage. It almost doesn't matter where it comes from. Now, I'm sure that they would prefer to have the Linux of LLMs, but I think the more it goes open source, the more of an advantage they have inherently.

So I think meta is sort of, because of the network effect thing, always in a position where open source is to their advantage. It almost doesn't matter where it comes from. Now, I'm sure that they would prefer to have the Linux of LLMs, but I think the more it goes open source, the more of an advantage they have inherently.

So I think meta is sort of, because of the network effect thing, always in a position where open source is to their advantage. It almost doesn't matter where it comes from. Now, I'm sure that they would prefer to have the Linux of LLMs, but I think the more it goes open source, the more of an advantage they have inherently.

Meta is an amazing competitor. What they would normally do if this was some sort of proprietary social mechanism, they would try and replicate and then they would compete and they would say, come join or not. I don't think the come join works here, but the beautiful thing is all of the information for this model is available. Meta has already been doing this. They have way more compute.

Meta is an amazing competitor. What they would normally do if this was some sort of proprietary social mechanism, they would try and replicate and then they would compete and they would say, come join or not. I don't think the come join works here, but the beautiful thing is all of the information for this model is available. Meta has already been doing this. They have way more compute.

Meta is an amazing competitor. What they would normally do if this was some sort of proprietary social mechanism, they would try and replicate and then they would compete and they would say, come join or not. I don't think the come join works here, but the beautiful thing is all of the information for this model is available. Meta has already been doing this. They have way more compute.

The question is, Are they willing to scrape open AI like DeepSeek did? They've been super careful on everything that they've been doing. And so that's the disadvantage.

The question is, Are they willing to scrape open AI like DeepSeek did? They've been super careful on everything that they've been doing. And so that's the disadvantage.

The question is, Are they willing to scrape open AI like DeepSeek did? They've been super careful on everything that they've been doing. And so that's the disadvantage.

And I think that's going to happen. I think people will like you cannot lose. And so what it's done is it's changed the game. Right. So, OK, so let's talk about Europe for a minute. We almost forgot about Europe. It feels like with Europe, there's a lack of a willingness to take risk. There's a black mark if you get it wrong.

And I think that's going to happen. I think people will like you cannot lose. And so what it's done is it's changed the game. Right. So, OK, so let's talk about Europe for a minute. We almost forgot about Europe. It feels like with Europe, there's a lack of a willingness to take risk. There's a black mark if you get it wrong.

And I think that's going to happen. I think people will like you cannot lose. And so what it's done is it's changed the game. Right. So, OK, so let's talk about Europe for a minute. We almost forgot about Europe. It feels like with Europe, there's a lack of a willingness to take risk. There's a black mark if you get it wrong.

everything's about downside protection whereas in the u.s it's like that was a great effort you failed but i'm going to fund you again right so there's that difference but when you look at the u.s and then you look at china china practices rdt research development theft it's just part of the culture and it's not just against western companies it's against each other too the difference is if you're a western company

everything's about downside protection whereas in the u.s it's like that was a great effort you failed but i'm going to fund you again right so there's that difference but when you look at the u.s and then you look at china china practices rdt research development theft it's just part of the culture and it's not just against western companies it's against each other too the difference is if you're a western company

everything's about downside protection whereas in the u.s it's like that was a great effort you failed but i'm going to fund you again right so there's that difference but when you look at the u.s and then you look at china china practices rdt research development theft it's just part of the culture and it's not just against western companies it's against each other too the difference is if you're a western company

then the government steals from the Western company and then provides it to the Chinese companies, which is less fair. The famous stories of turning on Huawei switches and you see Cisco's logo and all the bugs, right? So is that a new paradigm? I really hope not. Like for Europe to compete with the US, Europe has to adopt a more risk on attitude.

then the government steals from the Western company and then provides it to the Chinese companies, which is less fair. The famous stories of turning on Huawei switches and you see Cisco's logo and all the bugs, right? So is that a new paradigm? I really hope not. Like for Europe to compete with the US, Europe has to adopt a more risk on attitude.

then the government steals from the Western company and then provides it to the Chinese companies, which is less fair. The famous stories of turning on Huawei switches and you see Cisco's logo and all the bugs, right? So is that a new paradigm? I really hope not. Like for Europe to compete with the US, Europe has to adopt a more risk on attitude.

Does the West have to adopt a more theft on attitude? I really hope not. Like that's just like viscerally disgusting to me. I'm like literally repulsed by the idea.

Does the West have to adopt a more theft on attitude? I really hope not. Like that's just like viscerally disgusting to me. I'm like literally repulsed by the idea.