Jonathan Roumie

It can be draining. If I'm meeting you at one of these events and something has moved you to want to, you know, come and have this individual moment that oftentimes happens at some of these things where they'll have like VIP groups that there are certain people that get to have like some one-on-one time, but there's 700 of them. That takes time and it takes energy and

A lot of the times it's emotionally charged and, you know, better or worse, that catches up with you after 700 encounters.

A lot of the times it's emotionally charged and, you know, better or worse, that catches up with you after 700 encounters.

I was at a... I was at a conference in a stadium of about 40,000 people. And I came off the stage and shortly thereafter, I got to the little green room where they had us hanging out. And security comes into the room and says, hey, there's a lady outside who's got a child in a wheelchair. Is it okay? She wants to know if she can say hello. And, uh,

I was at a... I was at a conference in a stadium of about 40,000 people. And I came off the stage and shortly thereafter, I got to the little green room where they had us hanging out. And security comes into the room and says, hey, there's a lady outside who's got a child in a wheelchair. Is it okay? She wants to know if she can say hello. And, uh,

I came outside and I met the lady and her son and she was already overwhelmed. And she then went on to tell me, she said, you know, our favorite episode is the episode where Tamar, one of the characters, lets her friend down on a stretcher in through the roof of Zebedee's house and Jesus heals him and he can walk again.

I came outside and I met the lady and her son and she was already overwhelmed. And she then went on to tell me, she said, you know, our favorite episode is the episode where Tamar, one of the characters, lets her friend down on a stretcher in through the roof of Zebedee's house and Jesus heals him and he can walk again.

And she says, so I just thought, wouldn't it be great if the same thing happened to my son? And I, and I said, yeah, that would be amazing, but I got to be honest with you, as far as I know, I don't have that gift. But I would love to pray with you if that's okay. So I just stood with them and I prayed with them for a minute. And they were so gracious and thanked me.

And she says, so I just thought, wouldn't it be great if the same thing happened to my son? And I, and I said, yeah, that would be amazing, but I got to be honest with you, as far as I know, I don't have that gift. But I would love to pray with you if that's okay. So I just stood with them and I prayed with them for a minute. And they were so gracious and thanked me.

And I walked away and then I just burst into tears. Because I thought to myself, man, on some level, I must have let them down. But they know, they know what I do. They know I'm not a healer. I'm not a preacher. So, Once I got through that line of thought, I recognized that I said, okay, I can't be what she maybe wanted me to be. I can only be who I've been made to be.

And I walked away and then I just burst into tears. Because I thought to myself, man, on some level, I must have let them down. But they know, they know what I do. They know I'm not a healer. I'm not a preacher. So, Once I got through that line of thought, I recognized that I said, okay, I can't be what she maybe wanted me to be. I can only be who I've been made to be.

That's a great question. I mean, I think first and foremost, the category error thing is kind of funny because I think all of us are not the sum total of what we do. You know, I think you, by what you do as an interviewer and the questions that you ask people and the things that you bring out of people shed light on humanity in ways that other people wouldn't know how to do.

That's a great question. I mean, I think first and foremost, the category error thing is kind of funny because I think all of us are not the sum total of what we do. You know, I think you, by what you do as an interviewer and the questions that you ask people and the things that you bring out of people shed light on humanity in ways that other people wouldn't know how to do.

And so in many ways, you have a gift for humanity that, that you might not even be considering in that light. You know what I mean?

And so in many ways, you have a gift for humanity that, that you might not even be considering in that light. You know what I mean?

No, but it's absolutely true because we're not just, I don't think we're just meant to be here to just eke out a living and get a job and maybe have a family, make some money and then die. Like we have a conversation and some sort of fruit comes comes out of that for somebody else hearing this interview. And all of a sudden, the trajectory that they were on all of a sudden changes.

No, but it's absolutely true because we're not just, I don't think we're just meant to be here to just eke out a living and get a job and maybe have a family, make some money and then die. Like we have a conversation and some sort of fruit comes comes out of that for somebody else hearing this interview. And all of a sudden, the trajectory that they were on all of a sudden changes.

They learn something or they had misconceptions about Christians or Catholics or, you know, non-Christians that they didn't before. And now they have a better dialogue. It's like, that's part of, I think, what we're all here to do. I don't give my political opinions out publicly.

They learn something or they had misconceptions about Christians or Catholics or, you know, non-Christians that they didn't before. And now they have a better dialogue. It's like, that's part of, I think, what we're all here to do. I don't give my political opinions out publicly.

Well, here's what I'll say about that.