Jonathan Sacerdoti

And Israel got very good at doing that.

So what happened was they didn't become fewer in number because there was less intention of killing Jews.

They became fewer in number because Israel was preventing them.

So people were then encouraged ideologically to take things into their own hands, take a knife,

take a vehicle.

Only one person needs to know about that.

It's you.

You wake up in the morning and you decide you're going to go and kill people.

And that was called the ramming intifada and the stabbing intifada.

So what happened here in the UK, in Manchester, at Heaton Park Synagogue on Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish year, somebody rammed the synagogue with a vehicle.

Two people were killed, one tragically by the police trying to shoot the terrorist.

And then in this incident, in Golders Green in London, a very Jewish area,

these two people were stabbed with a knife by an individual.

So globalize the intifada really does mean something to people who followed what's gone on in Israel over the years.

And these things are direct reflections of that sort of violent urge.

Well, look, I can't say what's in anyone's mind when they say certain phrases, but I can say what's in my mind when I hear them.

And I can say what's in many people's minds when they hear them.

So if I – I don't know – if I call for a Holocaust –

And I didn't mean to replicate the industrial scale eradication of Jews when I said it.

It doesn't mean that that word doesn't have importance and meaning and power.