Jonathan Schanzer
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You know, and what he did is he forced Zelensky to come back and agree to a mineral deal that might actually ultimately protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine, benefit the United States and put us in a different position. Now, I'm not going to tell you that it's all going to work out perfectly, and I'm not going to tell you that he had it all planned in advance.
You know, and what he did is he forced Zelensky to come back and agree to a mineral deal that might actually ultimately protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine, benefit the United States and put us in a different position. Now, I'm not going to tell you that it's all going to work out perfectly, and I'm not going to tell you that he had it all planned in advance.
You know, and what he did is he forced Zelensky to come back and agree to a mineral deal that might actually ultimately protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine, benefit the United States and put us in a different position. Now, I'm not going to tell you that it's all going to work out perfectly, and I'm not going to tell you that he had it all planned in advance.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But this is kind of the way that this president operates. He'll throw something out there. He will create outrage. He will create a huge flap. And everybody focuses on what exactly that one thing was that they can't stand or they can't live with. And meanwhile, another conversation begins that actually may be beneficial. Now, it all can still fall apart.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But this is kind of the way that this president operates. He'll throw something out there. He will create outrage. He will create a huge flap. And everybody focuses on what exactly that one thing was that they can't stand or they can't live with. And meanwhile, another conversation begins that actually may be beneficial. Now, it all can still fall apart.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But this is kind of the way that this president operates. He'll throw something out there. He will create outrage. He will create a huge flap. And everybody focuses on what exactly that one thing was that they can't stand or they can't live with. And meanwhile, another conversation begins that actually may be beneficial. Now, it all can still fall apart.
And again, I'm not telling you that all this was done exactly by design, but this is the style of the president. That's what we're watching now on multiple fronts.
And again, I'm not telling you that all this was done exactly by design, but this is the style of the president. That's what we're watching now on multiple fronts.
And again, I'm not telling you that all this was done exactly by design, but this is the style of the president. That's what we're watching now on multiple fronts.
Sure. Well, look, there's two countries that have been pressured to consider taking in refugees. One of them is Jordan. And I got to tell you, I'm not surprised that Jordan said no, and I am not sure that I would want Jordan to say yes. This is a pivotal country in the region.
Sure. Well, look, there's two countries that have been pressured to consider taking in refugees. One of them is Jordan. And I got to tell you, I'm not surprised that Jordan said no, and I am not sure that I would want Jordan to say yes. This is a pivotal country in the region.
Sure. Well, look, there's two countries that have been pressured to consider taking in refugees. One of them is Jordan. And I got to tell you, I'm not surprised that Jordan said no, and I am not sure that I would want Jordan to say yes. This is a pivotal country in the region.
I don't love everything that they do, and I think a reckoning is needed between Israel and Jordan and the United States, because I don't think Jordan's been a particularly grateful recipient of American aid, and I don't think they've held up their end of the bargain as it relates to Israeli-Jordanian peace. But they're 85% Palestinian, and they also have another one to two million Syrian refugees.
I don't love everything that they do, and I think a reckoning is needed between Israel and Jordan and the United States, because I don't think Jordan's been a particularly grateful recipient of American aid, and I don't think they've held up their end of the bargain as it relates to Israeli-Jordanian peace. But they're 85% Palestinian, and they also have another one to two million Syrian refugees.
I don't love everything that they do, and I think a reckoning is needed between Israel and Jordan and the United States, because I don't think Jordan's been a particularly grateful recipient of American aid, and I don't think they've held up their end of the bargain as it relates to Israeli-Jordanian peace. But they're 85% Palestinian, and they also have another one to two million Syrian refugees.
This is not a country that can afford to have more destabilization and to have a greater influx of refugees. That's Jordan. Now, Egypt is another story. It's one of the most populous countries on earth.
This is not a country that can afford to have more destabilization and to have a greater influx of refugees. That's Jordan. Now, Egypt is another story. It's one of the most populous countries on earth.
This is not a country that can afford to have more destabilization and to have a greater influx of refugees. That's Jordan. Now, Egypt is another story. It's one of the most populous countries on earth.
But at the same time, here's the thing, the Sinai Peninsula, which is the area that abuts the Gaza Strip, not very densely populated, certainly could be a place that could house Palestinians, especially if other countries like the UAE or Saudi Arabia or even the US helped to foot the bill, kept them there, didn't let them integrate into mainland Egypt.
But at the same time, here's the thing, the Sinai Peninsula, which is the area that abuts the Gaza Strip, not very densely populated, certainly could be a place that could house Palestinians, especially if other countries like the UAE or Saudi Arabia or even the US helped to foot the bill, kept them there, didn't let them integrate into mainland Egypt.