Jonathan Schanzer
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My pleasure. And you can feel free to sell that Gazalago t-shirt. That's all you.
My pleasure. And you can feel free to sell that Gazalago t-shirt. That's all you.
My pleasure. And you can feel free to sell that Gazalago t-shirt. That's all you.
Well, I got here on Monday, and we all knew that the deal was close. They'd been circling over this for a couple of days. I spent the last days trying to just talk to senior people here, talking to the people who've been involved in brokering this deal. First, I'll just start by saying this was a deal that was put on the table by the Israelis back in May.
Well, I got here on Monday, and we all knew that the deal was close. They'd been circling over this for a couple of days. I spent the last days trying to just talk to senior people here, talking to the people who've been involved in brokering this deal. First, I'll just start by saying this was a deal that was put on the table by the Israelis back in May.
Well, I got here on Monday, and we all knew that the deal was close. They'd been circling over this for a couple of days. I spent the last days trying to just talk to senior people here, talking to the people who've been involved in brokering this deal. First, I'll just start by saying this was a deal that was put on the table by the Israelis back in May.
The same deal could have been accepted by Hamas, but it wasn't. Really, three reasons for that. One is, you know, Israel killed Yahya Sinwar, the head of Hamas, last year. They also really just gave Hezbollah a shellacking, which took a lot of pressure off of Israel, put more pressure on Hamas. But I think the real game changer was the election of Donald Trump.
The same deal could have been accepted by Hamas, but it wasn't. Really, three reasons for that. One is, you know, Israel killed Yahya Sinwar, the head of Hamas, last year. They also really just gave Hezbollah a shellacking, which took a lot of pressure off of Israel, put more pressure on Hamas. But I think the real game changer was the election of Donald Trump.
The same deal could have been accepted by Hamas, but it wasn't. Really, three reasons for that. One is, you know, Israel killed Yahya Sinwar, the head of Hamas, last year. They also really just gave Hezbollah a shellacking, which took a lot of pressure off of Israel, put more pressure on Hamas. But I think the real game changer was the election of Donald Trump.
It really, I think, changed their view of how much time they had to continue to kind of jerk everybody around and to keep this crisis going. They knew they had to get this thing done, and we're going to see that this thing is going to get implemented on Sunday, one day before Trump's inauguration, and this is going to alleviate pressure on Hamas.
It really, I think, changed their view of how much time they had to continue to kind of jerk everybody around and to keep this crisis going. They knew they had to get this thing done, and we're going to see that this thing is going to get implemented on Sunday, one day before Trump's inauguration, and this is going to alleviate pressure on Hamas.
It really, I think, changed their view of how much time they had to continue to kind of jerk everybody around and to keep this crisis going. They knew they had to get this thing done, and we're going to see that this thing is going to get implemented on Sunday, one day before Trump's inauguration, and this is going to alleviate pressure on Hamas.
From the Israeli perspective, they don't love the deal because it is likely going to see the release of about 1,600 Hamas and other terrorist fighters that have blood on their hands, that have been sitting in Israeli jails. They're going to be sent back out into the wild. And so there's a lot of people here in Israel who are grumpy about this.
From the Israeli perspective, they don't love the deal because it is likely going to see the release of about 1,600 Hamas and other terrorist fighters that have blood on their hands, that have been sitting in Israeli jails. They're going to be sent back out into the wild. And so there's a lot of people here in Israel who are grumpy about this.
From the Israeli perspective, they don't love the deal because it is likely going to see the release of about 1,600 Hamas and other terrorist fighters that have blood on their hands, that have been sitting in Israeli jails. They're going to be sent back out into the wild. And so there's a lot of people here in Israel who are grumpy about this.
But it's going to see the release of 33 hostages, the majority of whom are going to be women, elderly, sick,
But it's going to see the release of 33 hostages, the majority of whom are going to be women, elderly, sick,
But it's going to see the release of 33 hostages, the majority of whom are going to be women, elderly, sick,
uh children you know these are the sorts of things that has it's just been breaking the hearts of israelis here but the key i think for the israeli negotiators was that they did not agree to end the war not in phase one after phase two if there is a phase two they might agree to it but i don't think that's where the heads of the israeli negotiators are i think the way they look at it is if they're able to get everybody back i think they're gonna go right back into that gaza battlefield and try to finish off hamas
uh children you know these are the sorts of things that has it's just been breaking the hearts of israelis here but the key i think for the israeli negotiators was that they did not agree to end the war not in phase one after phase two if there is a phase two they might agree to it but i don't think that's where the heads of the israeli negotiators are i think the way they look at it is if they're able to get everybody back i think they're gonna go right back into that gaza battlefield and try to finish off hamas