Jonathan Turley

And my other grandfather was a cooper, made barrels.

They didn't like their jobs.

Certainly my coal mining grandfather didn't like getting black lung.

But if you asked him who he was, he'd say, I'm a coal miner.

We've always been defined by what we did, by how we were productive.

And we can't go into this century with a huge percentage of our population of unproductive people who have no identity because the only identity they will have then is the government that's supporting them.

Yeah, that's what I refer to in the regional republic as a kept citizenry.

We can't have that.

And we also cannot create an economy that's fake.

Right.

You can't have an arts and crafts citizenry that just has a bunch of people doing effectively arts and crafts.

Right.

None of that is going to give them a sense of worth.

So it means that we have to focus on those industries that we still want human beings to be part of and then can be productive.

I believe in capitalism.

I believe that there will be those industries.

As you suggest, Glenn, there's going to be a burn off, but then people will shift.

We have to facilitate that by not artificially subsidizing some industries.

We have to allow people to find ways to advance themselves.

What we need to avoid is that if you have a small percentage of productive citizens, they're going to increasingly live separately and they're going to demand more power over how money is spent.