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Jonathan V. Last

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2407 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

The New Republic invented it. Yeah. Before Slateway existed, the slate pitch was the New Republic. Okay. Anyway, when Trump flew to Saudi Arabia, he basically โ€“ he gave a speech where he was saying like we're not here to moralize. We're just about making business deals with people and that's what our foreign policy is about. I think a lot of people took that idea completely at face value.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But my argument is actually they do have a values-based foreign policy. J.D. Vance has gone to Europe and he's lectured people about their immigration policies and about their free speech policies and about letting AFD have more access to the political system, their policies. They've lectured South Africans on their treatment of white farmers.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But my argument is actually they do have a values-based foreign policy. J.D. Vance has gone to Europe and he's lectured people about their immigration policies and about their free speech policies and about letting AFD have more access to the political system, their policies. They've lectured South Africans on their treatment of white farmers.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But my argument is actually they do have a values-based foreign policy. J.D. Vance has gone to Europe and he's lectured people about their immigration policies and about their free speech policies and about letting AFD have more access to the political system, their policies. They've lectured South Africans on their treatment of white farmers.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Their concepts of democracy and free speech and human rights are very important to their foreign policy. So they have values, but their values are bad. It's not amoral, it's immoral foreign policy. And I think it actually gives them too much credit to assume that it's pure commerce-based, just making money and making deals. Trump's dealings with the Gulf are corrupt. They are money-based.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Their concepts of democracy and free speech and human rights are very important to their foreign policy. So they have values, but their values are bad. It's not amoral, it's immoral foreign policy. And I think it actually gives them too much credit to assume that it's pure commerce-based, just making money and making deals. Trump's dealings with the Gulf are corrupt. They are money-based.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Their concepts of democracy and free speech and human rights are very important to their foreign policy. So they have values, but their values are bad. It's not amoral, it's immoral foreign policy. And I think it actually gives them too much credit to assume that it's pure commerce-based, just making money and making deals. Trump's dealings with the Gulf are corrupt. They are money-based.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But there is a shared value system. I mean, he genuinely admires... the authoritarian character of these regimes. He loves the fact that he can go there and no one is allowed to protest against him and that, you know, he can get his palms greased. So that's not just about making deals for the country or even for himself. It's really, you can see it in his face. He loves dictators. He admires them.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But there is a shared value system. I mean, he genuinely admires... the authoritarian character of these regimes. He loves the fact that he can go there and no one is allowed to protest against him and that, you know, he can get his palms greased. So that's not just about making deals for the country or even for himself. It's really, you can see it in his face. He loves dictators. He admires them.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But there is a shared value system. I mean, he genuinely admires... the authoritarian character of these regimes. He loves the fact that he can go there and no one is allowed to protest against him and that, you know, he can get his palms greased. So that's not just about making deals for the country or even for himself. It's really, you can see it in his face. He loves dictators. He admires them.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It's a value of his. And so like it's a values-based policy, I think is an important point.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It's a value of his. And so like it's a values-based policy, I think is an important point.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It's a value of his. And so like it's a values-based policy, I think is an important point.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah. The pluralist countries are the foes. Yeah. It's across the board. It's like anything in life. When you have a friend or a colleague, you know what gets them excited. You can just tell. You can tell in their energy and their voice and their engagement level. Trump gets very engaged and excited when he is attacking our small L liberal allies around the world. He does not like them.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah. The pluralist countries are the foes. Yeah. It's across the board. It's like anything in life. When you have a friend or a colleague, you know what gets them excited. You can just tell. You can tell in their energy and their voice and their engagement level. Trump gets very engaged and excited when he is attacking our small L liberal allies around the world. He does not like them.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah. The pluralist countries are the foes. Yeah. It's across the board. It's like anything in life. When you have a friend or a colleague, you know what gets them excited. You can just tell. You can tell in their energy and their voice and their engagement level. Trump gets very engaged and excited when he is attacking our small L liberal allies around the world. He does not like them.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

He does not want to be in their company.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

He does not want to be in their company.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

He does not want to be in their company.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

And when they're black, all the more so.