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Jonathan V. Last

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2407 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I do think that this in some ways overlaps with what we saw with the South Africa discussion, too. But I don't know if you have any insight into the woke right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I do think that this in some ways overlaps with what we saw with the South Africa discussion, too. But I don't know if you have any insight into the woke right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I do think that this in some ways overlaps with what we saw with the South Africa discussion, too. But I don't know if you have any insight into the woke right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Right. So this is the critique that sort of originated on parts of the right that were at least open to Trump, if not completely in his camp. And then since, you know, that were basically against the illiberalism of the far left and saw Trump as a corrective to that and then realized that Trump was just recapitulating or, in my view, exceeding the illiberalism of the far left.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Right. So this is the critique that sort of originated on parts of the right that were at least open to Trump, if not completely in his camp. And then since, you know, that were basically against the illiberalism of the far left and saw Trump as a corrective to that and then realized that Trump was just recapitulating or, in my view, exceeding the illiberalism of the far left.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Right. So this is the critique that sort of originated on parts of the right that were at least open to Trump, if not completely in his camp. And then since, you know, that were basically against the illiberalism of the far left and saw Trump as a corrective to that and then realized that Trump was just recapitulating or, in my view, exceeding the illiberalism of the far left.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I would say massively exceeding the illiberalism of the far left. And so they were using the word woke to express the kind of parallel, the sort of meet the new boss, same as the old boss dynamic of this. I personally prefer illiberal or authoritarian as descriptors. But the difference between my descriptor and woke is they hate the term woke, right? It makes them so angry.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I would say massively exceeding the illiberalism of the far left. And so they were using the word woke to express the kind of parallel, the sort of meet the new boss, same as the old boss dynamic of this. I personally prefer illiberal or authoritarian as descriptors. But the difference between my descriptor and woke is they hate the term woke, right? It makes them so angry.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I would say massively exceeding the illiberalism of the far left. And so they were using the word woke to express the kind of parallel, the sort of meet the new boss, same as the old boss dynamic of this. I personally prefer illiberal or authoritarian as descriptors. But the difference between my descriptor and woke is they hate the term woke, right? It makes them so angry.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

They can't stop talking about how angry it makes them. Okay, so that's appealing.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

They can't stop talking about how angry it makes them. Okay, so that's appealing.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

They can't stop talking about how angry it makes them. Okay, so that's appealing.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It's appealing to use it for that reason.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It's appealing to use it for that reason.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It's appealing to use it for that reason.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

There is a real appeal, but also making them realize the degree to which they really have recapitulated the worst habits of the people they most hate. Can I repeat one of my little Twitter burns? Will Chamberlain, one of these right-wing FedSoc illiberal lawyer types who's in the Trump circle, he was really complaining about โ€“ Ed Whelan was a more traditional conservative โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

There is a real appeal, but also making them realize the degree to which they really have recapitulated the worst habits of the people they most hate. Can I repeat one of my little Twitter burns? Will Chamberlain, one of these right-wing FedSoc illiberal lawyer types who's in the Trump circle, he was really complaining about โ€“ Ed Whelan was a more traditional conservative โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

There is a real appeal, but also making them realize the degree to which they really have recapitulated the worst habits of the people they most hate. Can I repeat one of my little Twitter burns? Will Chamberlain, one of these right-wing FedSoc illiberal lawyer types who's in the Trump circle, he was really complaining about โ€“ Ed Whelan was a more traditional conservative โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

who called Emil Bove, the Justice Department staffer, a henchman, saying, we can't promote a henchman. He says, like, how can you, is this the term we're using when we're calling him a henchman? Is that fair? And I said, like, you're right. When you're in the war, right, you got to call a hench person or person experiencing hench. That's the real nice walk right term.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

who called Emil Bove, the Justice Department staffer, a henchman, saying, we can't promote a henchman. He says, like, how can you, is this the term we're using when we're calling him a henchman? Is that fair? And I said, like, you're right. When you're in the war, right, you got to call a hench person or person experiencing hench. That's the real nice walk right term.