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Jonathan V. Last

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah, I mean, I think what you're hitting on is this, the hangover of this ideology that really got very fashionable in this country for a few years, maybe peaked around 2020, which is really a kind of totalizing analysis of race, right? Like Ibram Kendi saying that literally everything is either pro-racist or anti-racist and nothing is neutral. And

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah, I mean, I think what you're hitting on is this, the hangover of this ideology that really got very fashionable in this country for a few years, maybe peaked around 2020, which is really a kind of totalizing analysis of race, right? Like Ibram Kendi saying that literally everything is either pro-racist or anti-racist and nothing is neutral. And

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah, I mean, I think what you're hitting on is this, the hangover of this ideology that really got very fashionable in this country for a few years, maybe peaked around 2020, which is really a kind of totalizing analysis of race, right? Like Ibram Kendi saying that literally everything is either pro-racist or anti-racist and nothing is neutral. And

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I think it began with the very correct understanding that racism left an incredibly deep and enduring imprint on American society that didn't go away when slavery disappeared and didn't go away when segregation disappeared. But in many people's minds, that has grown into just a totalistic explanation for everything.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I think it began with the very correct understanding that racism left an incredibly deep and enduring imprint on American society that didn't go away when slavery disappeared and didn't go away when segregation disappeared. But in many people's minds, that has grown into just a totalistic explanation for everything.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I think it began with the very correct understanding that racism left an incredibly deep and enduring imprint on American society that didn't go away when slavery disappeared and didn't go away when segregation disappeared. But in many people's minds, that has grown into just a totalistic explanation for everything.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

So it certainly impacts our immigration policy, but they have no other way of understanding anything else that could be impacting our immigration policy. And so they're driven to this totalistic frame. And so you're just left with these kind of black โ€“ I mean black and white I suppose is the wrong phrase to use. Yeah, sure.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

So it certainly impacts our immigration policy, but they have no other way of understanding anything else that could be impacting our immigration policy. And so they're driven to this totalistic frame. And so you're just left with these kind of black โ€“ I mean black and white I suppose is the wrong phrase to use. Yeah, sure.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

So it certainly impacts our immigration policy, but they have no other way of understanding anything else that could be impacting our immigration policy. And so they're driven to this totalistic frame. And so you're just left with these kind of black โ€“ I mean black and white I suppose is the wrong phrase to use. Yeah, sure.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Right. It's just absolutist analysis. It's a black and white cookie living in harmony together.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Right. It's just absolutist analysis. It's a black and white cookie living in harmony together.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Right. It's just absolutist analysis. It's a black and white cookie living in harmony together.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I think you need to โ€“ you not only can, but you have to recognize the impact of racism in American life while leaving yourself room to see other forces that are at play.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I think you need to โ€“ you not only can, but you have to recognize the impact of racism in American life while leaving yourself room to see other forces that are at play.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I think you need to โ€“ you not only can, but you have to recognize the impact of racism in American life while leaving yourself room to see other forces that are at play.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah. And to me, this case in particular and what we're doing across the board that I just โ€“ I like to keep bringing up because sometimes just people don't think about it. Like they have a โ€“ whatever their view is about immigration, like liberal or conservative, it's not like, well, he didn't follow the rules. He should leave or, you know, well, we should be more generous. Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah. And to me, this case in particular and what we're doing across the board that I just โ€“ I like to keep bringing up because sometimes just people don't think about it. Like they have a โ€“ whatever their view is about immigration, like liberal or conservative, it's not like, well, he didn't follow the rules. He should leave or, you know, well, we should be more generous. Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Yeah. And to me, this case in particular and what we're doing across the board that I just โ€“ I like to keep bringing up because sometimes just people don't think about it. Like they have a โ€“ whatever their view is about immigration, like liberal or conservative, it's not like, well, he didn't follow the rules. He should leave or, you know, well, we should be more generous. Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But like there, there are choices that are made by the government about how to handle situations such as this. You know what I mean? It's like, We could change the law where if you run a red light, you get jailed for life or you could get a ticket. There's a whole range of different punishments for things such as this.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

But like there, there are choices that are made by the government about how to handle situations such as this. You know what I mean? It's like, We could change the law where if you run a red light, you get jailed for life or you could get a ticket. There's a whole range of different punishments for things such as this.