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Jonathan V. Last

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1937 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like it's not written anywhere that he can't turn this around, that God knows it's not written anywhere even that you can't have a bunch of shenanigans in 2026 that result in

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Things which are quasi-legal, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

You know, a close election where the House is being decided by like two or three seats and maybe, you know, some... The Missouri Senate, the Ohio Board of Elections is like, huh, we think that in this district where Democrat won, we're not sure we can certify those results because reasons.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And all of that, God knows, is...

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

independent of the possibility that Trump could legitimately keep winning, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Maybe we wind up with a, maybe the AI bubble bursts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

We go into a recession and people blame Democrats.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like, I think that's the less likely of the two possibilities, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Normally they blame the incumbent president's party, but that's not like a rule of physics.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

You know, that's not inevitable, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Lots of things could happen.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Here's what I say.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Yesterday turned out as well as you could have asked for it to turn out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

If you and I had sat down and say, what are the results that would be the best possible case scenario?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

It would have looked basically like what we got.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like that's necessary, but not sufficient for rolling back all this stuff.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

No, but I would say that we are never going to be able to go back to where we came from, which is bad.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like, you know, Sarah is like, oh, we'll just build something that's new, but even better that fixes all the faults of the old systems.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And I'm like, that's not how these things work.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like we might get the chance to build something new, but it'll still be a slightly crappier version of what we used to have.