Jordan B. Peterson

I think maybe it's a moment in which the kind of the collectively guilty action is completed and he identifies himself with the act of his people.

I don't know.

Well, you could also conceivably read it as

I'd like, in some way, a kind of over-response, is that he's so appalled by the goings-on that now he impulsively destroys something that's of great value that's been entrusted to him.

So do you think he was wrong?

Well, I don't know.

I mean, it doesn't seem that dashing the tablet of tradition to bits is necessarily the right response to the emergence of licentiousness.

Although I would say that is what conservatives are doing now in the main...

Dashing the tablets into pieces in frustration and bitterness.

That could be Moses' own redemption, too, taking place.

I mean, I don't want to drive this point forward too hard.

It is also a fractal representation of the redemptive narrative, right?

Because one...

version of the redemptive narrative, the archetypal redemptive narrative is tyranny, desert, promised land, but another is tradition, chaos, the reestablishment of tradition.

And so that's being played out here too, because it's obviously, it is also the case that

what the Israelites do is equivalent to dashing the tablets to bits.

Okay.

And isn't the nakedness and the shame also referring back to the Garden of Eden and the original disobedience?

So it's going back to square one again that...

One of the things you constantly do as a behavioral psychologist is to put up