Jordan Harbinger

I mean, that's what her mother-in-law is doing already.

I am heartened by that.

We don't hear that very often.

I just think it's going to take him longer to arrive at the conclusion that our friend here has come to already.

While they simultaneously punched and choked their kids in front of everyone else.

I mean, this is a, again, a Dr. Romney case study.

It's a really important point, Gabe.

And maybe it would be helpful for her to tell her husband that, look, honey, I know this whole thing with your parents is harder for you than it is for me.

I get frustrated.

I want you to see things the way I see them.

I think I'm right to be concerned, but I also think you're in your own process.

And I appreciate that you're

looking into this with your therapist, and I'm here to talk about all of it.

As for what kind of relationship and contact you should have with the parents, I would say until you see something different from them, they can hang with the baby when other people are around.

That's fair.

And if you don't feel like they're truly listening to you or taking you seriously, then you guys probably don't need to be super close and see each other three times a week.

But that doesn't mean you can't be kind and gracious and polite to them, of course.

Honestly, though, it's hard.

They don't sound like easy people in a number of ways.

And you and your husband are going to have to have some real talks about what kind of relationship is possible with them, given their personalities.