Jordan Harbinger

It really is a great companion to the show.

JordanHarbinger.com slash news is where you can find it.

Now, for the rest of my conversation with Andrea Dunlop.

You mentioned earlier like non-profits that are just magnets for these people.

There's celebrity adjacent.

There's money.

There's lots of attention.

There's also this huge field of people to manipulate, right?

If you've got like an organization that runs, I don't know, a run for Raise for the Cure and it's like your child's one of the poster children for this thing, that's just a lot of exactly what these people do.

are looking for.

And the woman in one of your latest seasons who essentially kills her son rebrands herself as this advocate for parents who have sick children.

That's super gross.

And she begs her still living daughter not to go on your podcast because her career would be ruined.

And I'm just like, oh my God, that was shocking.

Sure.

Yeah.

A lot of the sharing from the parents is crazy to me, like way overly detailed, oversharing.

It's like medical porn.

Parents, they'll take photos and they're like, they're dressed in scrubs.

And it's like, why are you dressed in scrubs visiting your kid?