Jordan Harbinger

Here today to help me raise the stakes is writer and researcher Nick Pell.

Are you a gambling man, Nick?

I think I know the answer.

Oh, right.

Yes.

Totally not gambling.

I forgot.

You actually, you came to me with this topic, which I was a little surprised by because, well, because you trade crypto, which is kind of just like gambling for nerds.

Not gambling.

Charts and graphs.

The ease of access to online gambling is a different issue as opposed to should gambling be legal?

It's a different question.

Right, okay.

It is really crazy how fast sports gambling went from something illegal.

Basically, you used to need to know a guy to even do it.

Now, I see ads constantly for it and constantly banning them from this podcast.

Basically, the advertisers are rejecting them as sponsors, much to the chagrin of my podcast network because they come in with truckloads of money.

There's an element of danger to gambling during that time period.

Well, right, because if somebody didn't pay your uncle, they're going to get a visit from your dad.

Really?