Jordan Harbinger

So we get rid of people like that over generations.

But yeah, you're right.

The human mind evolved to be prepared for threats.

So it follows that learning about those threats as much as possible...

it incurs a survival advantage.

And that does support the theory about true crime, right?

I've said this on the show before.

People, especially women, they love true crime.

It's like kind of murder porn in a way.

Yeah, a little bit.

I mean, I'm exaggerating, of course, but a lot of the people who watch true crime, I'll ask them, hey, what do you like about this?

And they're like, I just feel like I could kick a serial killer's ass now because I'm

I know all these red flags and I will know in advance and I will have my escape plan and I carry my mace and then I've got my sharp pen and I'm going to jab them in the eye because that worked for this one lady who got away when she was getting attacked in a national park or something.

And you're like, OK, look, true crime obsessed ladies who listen to the show.

I'm curious if you think that listening to true crime gives you a survival advantage, real or imagined.

It doesn't matter if it actually does.

I want to know if you feel empowered afterwards.

It doesn't matter if in the back of your head you're still worried about it.

What do you think afterwards?

And I really do think that people probably feel that way.