Jordan Harbinger

I don't want to be barfing everywhere and like not be able to finish.

Yeah, a little slightly different.

I suppose maybe you build a tolerance.

You watch the black phone and then you're like, okay, and then you watch something else.

And so the black phone, the reason my horror movie fan friends didn't like it is because they're used to Saw.

And then they go to the black phone and they're like, that's it?

Just the guy with some scratches on his face and then a couple jump scares?

Whatever, I'm out of here.

That is a good point.

Because the guy grabbing kids and putting them in the van, that was a thing that happened to kids that were near me.

There was a guy dressed as a clown that was trying to kidnap kids around my school, which is like the most cliche thing ever.

Yeah.

This is, again, in the 80s or the early 90s.

And it was a good community.

So people were like, there's a guy dressed as a clown with literal balloons in his car trying to talk to kids.

There was a couple more reports, and then the cops were like, we found this idiot who, of course, lives with his mother, and he is a dude who is trying to kidnap kids, and he hasn't killed anyone so far as we know, but we gave him a talking to, and he's not doing that again.

Yeah, so we had a little bit of that.

I would love if you could take the last sort of couple minutes and explain why childhood is so long in humans.

This is totally an aside, but I thought it was quite interesting from your book.

Colton Scribner, thank you so much, man.