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Jordan Harbinger

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

If I recall correctly, we did kind of nod to Peter, what he knows about the situation, what he doesn't know, what role he can play in making things fairer for his mom.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

You're right, it's easy to villainize Ellie.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

There were plenty of details in the letter that suggested she was oblivious at best and selfish at worst.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

Totally.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

And so is that misogyny?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

Are we just blaming all the women in the story because they're women?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

I'm not sure I agree there.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

But I do take your point that it can be easier to point the finger at a woman when it comes to child care than at a man who's at work.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

during the day.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

And I guess because the bar is pretty low for men in the child care department, they're traditionally not as involved with the kids.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

But I also remember us saying that if Peter knew what was happening at the house, he might have some strong feelings about it and intervene.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

So I don't think we really did let him off the hook entirely either.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

Yeah.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

Where I fully agree with our friend here is even if Ellie's out of line, we can be curious about her reasons.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

Like you said, maybe Ellie has no one else.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

Maybe she's spending so much time with the mom because she's lonely and exhausted and craves the connection.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

And that's fair.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

Although I do kind of remember us talking about that, how maybe time at her mother-in-law's house is actually a reprieve from child care.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

For sure.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1310: Sick Mom Needs Me โ€” But So Does My Family | Feedback Friday

I'm remembering now.