Jordan Kounelis

They won the next three in a row after that.

Was it the prime minister's 13 team he coached?

Was it the indigenous all-stars?

Like what happened in that 10 year period that they went, yeah, actually he is our guy.

You might've got it wrong with Matt King.

I don't know.

But at least you're trying something new that is like, you went back to something that you proved didn't work.

Am I off the mark?

Yeah.

You have to divide his entire career into two now because he's, you know, for people that are too young or whatever, he's the top five New South Wales Blue of all time.

Fucking incredible player.

But that's the other thing as well for me that, okay, if he doesn't have the coaching behind him, are the blokes in suits at the Blues going, okay, well, he's the aura guy.

He's our guy.

None of these players remember Laurie Daly.

They grew up with Laurie Daly as the guy doing the multis on the Matty Johns show.

And, like, he just – I don't think he has that same –

Well, to be fair to them, I think they did make a great decision in Madge.

I think that was very clear.

That was obviously taken off them, which sucks.

They were sort of left.