Jordan Lee Ikitule

I just, you know, say how it is.

And I think my biggest thing is just that whole awareness and education part.

But

Personally, like if I was to take my head off as a founder and CEO and of this charity and it wasn't it wasn't a dream of mine.

I sort of just put a video out and I was keen to chat with like one or two days.

That was a goal like two and a half years ago.

And pretty much from that video that I put out.

Yeah.

Like our mainstream media were just on my back like we need to interview you.

And we ended up creating like a documentary of TVNZ.

was going on like every news and different podcasts but behind the scenes I'm still like trying to navigate it as well so it was it was pretty hard and my wife and I like that was probably the hardest times like we've been married for 12 years but I don't think I'll forget those sort of founding that founding era of what we've got and we've gone on to do like international events like in Tokyo and Utah and

Sydney and just heaps of cool stuff but I think a lot of people see like sort of where you get to but they don't see um sort of how we got there and that was the hardest part where I was trying to balance the marriage and then my other daughter like my oldest kid everyone gets everyone's getting time and everyone's getting yeah yeah yeah yeah so it was it was pretty crazy but um yeah just whatever I can do bro I'm just always so passionate about that space

I think from a guy's perspective, bro, like, it's just good to get out.

Like, catching up with my boys and stuff and they're always just chatting about, you know, what it's like and that sort of stuff.

But I think in a general public sense of space, autism is tricky, bro, because it's not a physical disability.

They call it, like, an invisible disability.

So...

It's hard, like, because I'm, like, sort of on both sides of the spectrum, like, my two daughters don't have autism, but my son does.

A lot of the autistic kids often get judged, which is, I don't, like, blame the, I guess, the parents that see it, because I definitely understand the thinking behind it.

But because autism is not a...