Jordan Midler

And that's the thing is, don't get this one confused with the other Horizon.

And that's the thing is, don't get this one confused with the other Horizon.

Yeah, there is a Guerrilla Co-op game that has a unique art style that they put a job posting up for about a year or so ago that seems like it could have Monster Hunter elements. I don't think we know that much yet, but your fingers crossed and you hope that that's what that is.

Yeah, there is a Guerrilla Co-op game that has a unique art style that they put a job posting up for about a year or so ago that seems like it could have Monster Hunter elements. I don't think we know that much yet, but your fingers crossed and you hope that that's what that is.

But even still, you look at that, you look at actual Horizon, you look at VR Horizon, you look at this MMO Horizon, you look at Lego Horizon, and at what point is it too much Horizon?

But even still, you look at that, you look at actual Horizon, you look at VR Horizon, you look at this MMO Horizon, you look at Lego Horizon, and at what point is it too much Horizon?

Yeah, like, we've had... There's been so many greenlit Horizon projects, and I am bummed out for teams' projects being shut down, right? Like, it always sucks to see, like... oh man, y'all put in so much work towards this. I'm sure there was amount of you that were excited about this, right?

Yeah, like, we've had... There's been so many greenlit Horizon projects, and I am bummed out for teams' projects being shut down, right? Like, it always sucks to see, like... oh man, y'all put in so much work towards this. I'm sure there was amount of you that were excited about this, right?

Like it always sucks to have a project that you're working on shut down because of financial decisions or like they couldn't support it or like y'all couldn't find the fund or whatever it is. So that sucks. That said, I do think that

Like it always sucks to have a project that you're working on shut down because of financial decisions or like they couldn't support it or like y'all couldn't find the fund or whatever it is. So that sucks. That said, I do think that

This is one that maybe would have been turbulent no matter what, just because of the landscape of where we're at with PlayStation multiplayer and with, I think, the amount of Horizon that feels like it's now being forced, right? It doesn't feel as natural. I'm in for a Horizon multiplayer thing, but I'm in for one Horizon multiplayer thing. I don't need multiple.

This is one that maybe would have been turbulent no matter what, just because of the landscape of where we're at with PlayStation multiplayer and with, I think, the amount of Horizon that feels like it's now being forced, right? It doesn't feel as natural. I'm in for a Horizon multiplayer thing, but I'm in for one Horizon multiplayer thing. I don't need multiple.

It's just like... I wonder if it is one of those things where they... Released Horizon Zero Dawn. It was a success. Sold a lot of copies. But it was also the perfect new IP, so it was fresh. It had something that had a world involved. When I think of something like Uncharted for a PlayStation IP, Uncharted for me is about Nathan Drake and his adventures.

It's just like... I wonder if it is one of those things where they... Released Horizon Zero Dawn. It was a success. Sold a lot of copies. But it was also the perfect new IP, so it was fresh. It had something that had a world involved. When I think of something like Uncharted for a PlayStation IP, Uncharted for me is about Nathan Drake and his adventures.

Horizon, of course, is about Aloy, but there is a world there that I think I could see a business person looking at and going, oh, we can do so many different things. And even as a fan.

Horizon, of course, is about Aloy, but there is a world there that I think I could see a business person looking at and going, oh, we can do so many different things. And even as a fan.

And I wonder if when PlayStation looks at their most popular IPs and they look at, I guess, what they want to build toward as far as trying to expand based on IP, right? Because, like, you want to be able to get juice out of these things. You want to be able to, like...

And I wonder if when PlayStation looks at their most popular IPs and they look at, I guess, what they want to build toward as far as trying to expand based on IP, right? Because, like, you want to be able to get juice out of these things. You want to be able to, like...

you know have ip build on itself that's what nintendo does so well you have mario kart you have mario party you have mario golf esports game you have so many things that are mario you have so many things that are azalea you have so many things that are kirby i think playstation wants to do that a bit because that is that is smart business i think that is how you're supposed to do these things but i think with horizon i almost feel like horizon was um like almost thrusted into all right you're the prime like ip for us to do this with because you go through and it is well spider-man is also marvel we gotta work with marvel their life

you know have ip build on itself that's what nintendo does so well you have mario kart you have mario party you have mario golf esports game you have so many things that are mario you have so many things that are azalea you have so many things that are kirby i think playstation wants to do that a bit because that is that is smart business i think that is how you're supposed to do these things but i think with horizon i almost feel like horizon was um like almost thrusted into all right you're the prime like ip for us to do this with because you go through and it is well spider-man is also marvel we gotta work with marvel their life