Jordi Hays

Have you been tracking this?

So there's three breakout movies this summer.

Obsession, Backrooms, and Iron Lung, all three created by YouTubers, independent creators.

Sort of...

Hollywood sort of turned their back on these folks.

They didn't have direct pipelines into the traditional media world, and yet they all had blockbuster films in the span of a few months.

And I'm just wondering if you're seeing any hints from the Spotify's of the world, the Netflix's of the world, where there might be more appetite to take what we started here, independent creators, and

start funneling them into the traditional workflows?

God, I hope not.

Extremely bearish for the slat wall industry.

Extremely bearish for the slat wall industry.

What do you think about podcast aesthetics, designs?

If I'm starting a solo show, should I put a bookcase behind me?

Oh, that's fun.

Yeah, that story is sort of apocryphal, right?

Because it's a picture of Steve Jobs' home office.

And people compare it to a picture of Tim Cook in the Apple office.

And they're like, this tells you everything about how different they are.

But the nuance there is that you haven't seen Tim Cook's home office.

You don't know what it's like.