Jordi Visser

No, but that's because they're old school enterprise companies that still have mainframe from IBM for a lot of their storage place.

They haven't even got off of that.

For AI native startups and for people like me, are you kidding me?

Like, why would I ever do that?

What about cybersecurity?

Well, that's why I have a Mac mini.

That's why I have open source on my Mac mini.

And then I've got my laptops.

I've got separate things.

I've got a sandbox that is completely secure.

And then I've got...

the thing that has all my files on it.

I just think when you're AI native, this concept doesn't go.

And the reason that's important, I don't believe there will ever be another enterprise.

I don't believe that will exist in an AI native world.

There will be billions of startup companies that are individual people.

They'll be run with AI agents.

If you believe in that, how is Salesforce gonna make a sale to an AI agent?

How's that gonna happen if AI agents are making all the transactions?

This is actually a world where people haven't even incorporated humanoids into the equation of the way they value companies.