Jordy Meiselas

That's some Big Ten to Big Ten love there, Ben, right?

Wolfers is a Michigan guy, Michigan man, as they say.

What's up, brothers?

What's up, Midas Mighty?

And I just want to build on to that last point, seeing as we are finally seeing folks speak out.

Look, I think I've been incredibly gracious to a fault, and I'll admit that, like to a fault of giving people either brainwashed or willful participants in propping up MAGA in the past an off ramp.

But over the weekend, I mean, I hit my personal tipping point with everything that's happened with Keith Porter to Renee Good to Alex Pretty.

If you still if you still

Can't disavow this regime?

If you're still sporting that red MAGA hat and saying that's Donald being Donald, making excuse after excuse for the atrocities that are being committed right here on U.S.

soil, I can't help you.

Nor, quite frankly, do I want to help you anymore because you don't want to be helped.

You're a hateful, evil person that doesn't care for your fellow American.

That's the only conclusion I can draw.

And here we are.

This audience cares.

We care here deeply in our bones about this country and about its citizens and about what real leadership looks like.

And quite frankly, what's coming out of the White House right now is an absence of leadership.

And that's just putting it as mildly as I can, Ben.

That's why I don't even call them humans.