Jordy Meiselas

And 2020, COVID, everything that happened, the disinformation machine that was turned on then, the eschewing of experts who were just trying to help and weren't always right because it was a novel disease and there was information that was rapidly changing, and then these bad actors.

Donald Trump and his minions used that changing information in order to sow more disinformation and more distrust in efforts.

It's really led us to where we are today.

And honestly, I have to say, we have to be one of the most propagandized nations in the world right now.

Bar none.

And a lot of it has to do with social media, with algorithms.

A lot has to do with, you know, obviously the Trump regime who is in office with stations like Fox News, with a legacy media that is ill-equipped to fight back.

And you just see even after the most unimaginable tragedies out there.

the propaganda that gets pumped out there to hide the real issues i mean of course you know by now ben's done you know reports on this and you all know about the horrific shooting in minneapolis just absolutely tragic heart-wrenching at a catholic school and

People want action when it comes to these things.

And we've seen this going back, speaking about those inflection point moments, going back to Columbine and Sandy Hook and all of these moments that have just taken the country down this horrific path.

and after every time at least in the beginning you think after this we'll do something like these politicians will stop bullshitting us and they will do something and they don't ever do anything and the republicans always try to make it about something else or it's always too soon to talk about something and so the new thing that we've seen in the past 24 hours is we had a lot of politicians yesterday and people like jen saki and a lot of folks

saying, I get your thoughts and prayers.

That's great.

We could do thoughts and prayers.

This happened in a church, okay?

Thoughts and prayers are not enough to stop shootings.

We need to do stuff to root out the root causes of these shootings.

We need to do something about guns and mental health

and all of it, because all the things that you blame this on exist in every other country.