Jordy Meiselas

But apparently all three of us do it, Ben.

So this concerns you if you want to look up.

Thick New York accent.

We don't have that on hand, do we though, Brett?

We don't.

Ben, what do you think?

I just wanted to add this really quickly, B. It's gonna take so long, Ben.

You know, you talk about our kids and future kids and grandparents who have kids or, you know, grandkids or whatnot.

It's going to take so long for us to get to a place where we could be trusted again.

Frankly, I don't know how long it will take.

You know, I like to use the analogy of like the smelly kid in class, like like we're the smelly kid in class right now.

And it's not just going to take one shower to no longer be the smelly kid in class like we're going to need to take some consistent showers here to figure this out.

And then hopefully, hopefully one day the kids around us really going far with this analogy can think that we don't smell anymore or at least not smell as bad.

And we're going to have to do some legwork here.

Brett, that's why I interrupted you.

I really wanted to get that.

Is that right?

You got to put it in terms that people understand.

Okay.

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