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Joscha Bach

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1434 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

and prevent open source from competing with corporations by imposing rules that make it impossible for a small group of kids to come together to build their own language model because OpenAI has convinced the US that you need to have some kind of FDA process that you need to go through that costs many million dollars before you are able to train a language model.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

So this is important to make sure that this doesn't happen. So I think that OpenAI and Google are good things. if these good things are kept in check in such a way that all the other clubs can still be founded and all the other forms of clubs that are desirable can still coexist with them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

So this is important to make sure that this doesn't happen. So I think that OpenAI and Google are good things. if these good things are kept in check in such a way that all the other clubs can still be founded and all the other forms of clubs that are desirable can still coexist with them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

So this is important to make sure that this doesn't happen. So I think that OpenAI and Google are good things. if these good things are kept in check in such a way that all the other clubs can still be founded and all the other forms of clubs that are desirable can still coexist with them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

I don't find it very concerning, but it's also because I think that the language models are not very dangerous yet. Yet? Yes. So as I said, I have no proof that there is the boundary between the language models and AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

I don't find it very concerning, but it's also because I think that the language models are not very dangerous yet. Yet? Yes. So as I said, I have no proof that there is the boundary between the language models and AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

I don't find it very concerning, but it's also because I think that the language models are not very dangerous yet. Yet? Yes. So as I said, I have no proof that there is the boundary between the language models and AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

it's possible that somebody builds a version of baby AGI, I think, and throws in algorithmic improvements that scale these systems up in ways that otherwise wouldn't have happened without these language model components. So it's not really clear for me what the end game is there and if these models can boot force their way into AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

it's possible that somebody builds a version of baby AGI, I think, and throws in algorithmic improvements that scale these systems up in ways that otherwise wouldn't have happened without these language model components. So it's not really clear for me what the end game is there and if these models can boot force their way into AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

it's possible that somebody builds a version of baby AGI, I think, and throws in algorithmic improvements that scale these systems up in ways that otherwise wouldn't have happened without these language model components. So it's not really clear for me what the end game is there and if these models can boot force their way into AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

And there's also a possibility that the AGI that we are building with these language models are not taking responsibility for what they are because they don't understand the greater game. And so to me, it would be interesting to try to understand how to build systems that understand what the greater games are. What are the longest games that we can play on this planet?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

And there's also a possibility that the AGI that we are building with these language models are not taking responsibility for what they are because they don't understand the greater game. And so to me, it would be interesting to try to understand how to build systems that understand what the greater games are. What are the longest games that we can play on this planet?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

And there's also a possibility that the AGI that we are building with these language models are not taking responsibility for what they are because they don't understand the greater game. And so to me, it would be interesting to try to understand how to build systems that understand what the greater games are. What are the longest games that we can play on this planet?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

In the game theoretic sense. So when we are interacting with each other, in some sense, we are playing games. We are making lots and lots of interactions. This doesn't mean that these interactions have all to be transactional. Every one of us is playing some kind of game by virtue of identifying these particular kinds of goals that we have or aesthetics from which we derive the goals.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

In the game theoretic sense. So when we are interacting with each other, in some sense, we are playing games. We are making lots and lots of interactions. This doesn't mean that these interactions have all to be transactional. Every one of us is playing some kind of game by virtue of identifying these particular kinds of goals that we have or aesthetics from which we derive the goals.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

In the game theoretic sense. So when we are interacting with each other, in some sense, we are playing games. We are making lots and lots of interactions. This doesn't mean that these interactions have all to be transactional. Every one of us is playing some kind of game by virtue of identifying these particular kinds of goals that we have or aesthetics from which we derive the goals.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

So when you say, I'm Lex Friedman, I'm doing a set of podcasts. then you feel that it's part of something larger that you want to build. Maybe you want to inspire people, maybe you want them to see more possibilities and get them together over shared ideas. Maybe your game is that you want to become super rich and famous by being the best post-caster on earth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

So when you say, I'm Lex Friedman, I'm doing a set of podcasts. then you feel that it's part of something larger that you want to build. Maybe you want to inspire people, maybe you want them to see more possibilities and get them together over shared ideas. Maybe your game is that you want to become super rich and famous by being the best post-caster on earth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

So when you say, I'm Lex Friedman, I'm doing a set of podcasts. then you feel that it's part of something larger that you want to build. Maybe you want to inspire people, maybe you want them to see more possibilities and get them together over shared ideas. Maybe your game is that you want to become super rich and famous by being the best post-caster on earth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#392 โ€“ Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans

Maybe you have other games, maybe it switches from time to time. But there is a certain perspective where you might be thinking, what is the longest possible game that you could be playing? A short game is, for instance, cancer is playing a shorter game than your organism. Cancer is an organism playing a shorter game than the regular organism.