Jose Luis Granados Ceja

So there's a dislike for it amongst the population.

Interesting.

And I think because people are worried that it would be a slippery slope, right?

How do U.S.

entanglements abroad always begin?

It always starts with that, with training, with advice.

Oh, well, we should give you some information.

But you're right to point out that there's an extraordinary amount of information sharing.

In fact, more than we probably know.

Gladys Sheinbaum and Donald Trump apparently had more than a dozen phone calls, but we only really know the details of a handful of them.

So they're obviously high-level negotiations, and that's how the Mexican government likes to do things.

I think particularly with the administration we have in the United States now where, you know, they are boastful and they like to, you know, stretch the truth to be polite about it.

Right.

And so she's like, I often she says, I often don't like to respond to whatever his public statements he makes.

We have our conversations.

They happen at the table.

They happen behind closed doors.

That's what's actually important in the bilateral relationship.

Got it.

Well, I think they would they would be feel encouraged.