Joseph Cox

So even if the cops managed to intercept it, the voice would be all garbled, and they wouldn't be able to tell who was actually talking.

You could also redact images.

So if somebody's face was in there, you could then blur it, and again, the cops get the image, they're actually not going to know who's in there.

and probably most importantly it had this really powerful wipe system where if the phone fell into the wrong hands you know maybe a border cop seized it or another law enforcement official got hold of it you could tell a nom hey quick my phone is in the hands of the cops please wipe the device and they would do that and it would remove all data from the phone of course you know

iCloud and Apple, they have something similar, but you don't go to Apple and be like, hey, my phone's in the hands of the cops.

Tim Cook isn't going to do that, as far as I know.

It had all of these bells and whistles, which, while still being secure, showed that, hey, we don't have to have these sort of like sluggish cameras

cumbersome encrypted phones anymore we can have the phone of the 2020s with all of the cool features while still catering to our criminal clientele got it so it's both secure and like all the fun exciting advances in smartphones that we've all gotten completely used to and don't actually feel fun and exciting but it's like a criminally secure phone with features

Yeah, exactly.

It brings them well into the 2020s.

And criminals can now send, you know, their sunglasses emojis or their heart emojis while they're doing their multi-ton shipments of cocaine.

And that's a security benefit as well, right?

You can't just rock into a normal phone store and get one of these phones, because if you could, the cops would buy them, and then they would get on the network as well.

So you have this human-level reseller network that also keeps the good guys out and the bad guys in.

Yes, it's exactly like your Scout cookies.

And that's also sort of a business benefit for a NOM, because if a top-tier criminal at the top of their drug trafficking pyramid gets a phone, that means everybody underneath them needs to get a NOM phone as well, because they only talk to one another.

So everybody needs to move to that network and that gets more money for a NOM as well.

It's not like normal phones where obviously an iPhone can send a text message to an Android.

You can't do that with a NOM.

It's just an insular sort of internal network.