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Joseph Henrich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

If you raise the average IQ of your society, it might lead them to have more abstract thoughts and do better science, and so that certainly fits.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

But the interesting thing for me is that the world of the future is going to be quite different than the one now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

So the set of cognitive abilities, which is going to be favored in the new AI world, is not going to be the same set that was favored in 1900 when they designed the IQ test.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

So, for example...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

In the IQ test, they ask you to remember digits backwards.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

I'm not sure how useful remembering lists of digits backwards.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

It was in a previous world where we had to write everything down and remember a lot of stuff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

But in some sense, we're interfacing with our technology and we got to figure out how do we โ€“ what are the set of cognitive abilities which is going to make people best able to solve problems?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

And like we talked about, it's even the case that the most creative people aren't the highest IQ people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

I guess one of the things I'm trying to say is that the minds that might lead us into the new world might not be the ones that have the highest IQ because the specialized โ€“ once you're sort of augmented with AI and all these kind of technological aids we have, the specialized thing that leads someone to do something creative โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

probably not going to be the same abilities that did it in 1910.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

Maybe the AI world you're imagining is different than the one I'm imagining, but I still think that people are going to figure out what problems we need to solve unless we're just going to tell the AIs to figure out what the problems are and then solve them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

Okay.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

They might not be that good at that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

I don't know.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

We'll see.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Joseph Henrich โ€“ Why Humans Survived and Smarter Species Didn't

Well, one thing to keep in mind is that most human societies over most of human evolutionary history didn't get to the moon.