Joseph Scott Morgan

Because I could sit there and look at a depressed area in the ground, do a retrieval of remains, an excavation, if you will, of remains.

But I always think, why do people...

why do people take not just bodies but evidence and hang on to them in their in their environment and that's that's always been a very fascinating dynamic i think it has something to do i've always thought this i think it has something to do with a potential perpetrator wanting to have constant control and

watch care over what they've done.

You know, isn't it interesting, Dave, how many cases that you and I have covered over the years now where you will have a perpetrator that will take

A human remain, for instance, and just discarded like it's rubbish, you know, out in some horrible area.

But yet we have these others that kind of latch on to these and literally hang on to them and continue to exist, perhaps in the same environment where.

Just out your front door or your kitchen window, you pull the curtains aside, and there's active decomposition going on in your backyard.

Think about that just for a second.

I mean, that's a real – I think that there could be –

an academic study, actually, that could be applied to this.

You begin to look at deposited remains and kind of the relationship between the perpetrators and remains and to see kind of how they, you know, how did all this come together?

What was your rationale for hanging on?

okay excellent question and kind of let me break it down to you this way um i know people use uh uh use motorized augers now uh to to put in post uh dig post holes with okay but let's go back in time and think about a and i lord knows i've had to use these over the years i used to work on a fencing crew when i was in college one of the toughest jobs i ever had um

Think about an old post hole digger.

It's got the two spoons.

They look like gigantic spoons.

You're driving it into the ground.

You're pinching it, bringing it out.

So if you're trying to analyze this from a forensic standpoint and you're looking at a defect in the ground,