Josh Barro

Because it was interesting, Josh Shapiro was on with Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC, and she used to be a business journalist over at Bloomberg. And she was asking Shapiro about, you know, a lot of people are upset about what happened in the 90s in Pennsylvania with NAFTA.

Because it was interesting, Josh Shapiro was on with Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC, and she used to be a business journalist over at Bloomberg. And she was asking Shapiro about, you know, a lot of people are upset about what happened in the 90s in Pennsylvania with NAFTA.

Because it was interesting, Josh Shapiro was on with Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC, and she used to be a business journalist over at Bloomberg. And she was asking Shapiro about, you know, a lot of people are upset about what happened in the 90s in Pennsylvania with NAFTA.

And Shapiro talks about, oh, well, you know, those trade deals, you know, Pennsylvania workers got screwed by bad trade deals, but we're going to make good trade deals now, more or less. There's an inconsistency there because he's talking about today we need cheaper steel and cheaper aluminum so that businesses in Pennsylvania that use steel and aluminum can get it more cheaply.

And Shapiro talks about, oh, well, you know, those trade deals, you know, Pennsylvania workers got screwed by bad trade deals, but we're going to make good trade deals now, more or less. There's an inconsistency there because he's talking about today we need cheaper steel and cheaper aluminum so that businesses in Pennsylvania that use steel and aluminum can get it more cheaply.

And Shapiro talks about, oh, well, you know, those trade deals, you know, Pennsylvania workers got screwed by bad trade deals, but we're going to make good trade deals now, more or less. There's an inconsistency there because he's talking about today we need cheaper steel and cheaper aluminum so that businesses in Pennsylvania that use steel and aluminum can get it more cheaply.

But the implication about the 90s, I mean, when people talk about NAFTA screwed people, what they mean is that U.S. steel workers ended up having to compete with steel workers from abroad selling cheaper steel. So in a way, he's having it both ways there. He's talking about, you know, now we shouldn't have these metal tariffs, but the implication is the metal tariffs were good 30 years ago.

But the implication about the 90s, I mean, when people talk about NAFTA screwed people, what they mean is that U.S. steel workers ended up having to compete with steel workers from abroad selling cheaper steel. So in a way, he's having it both ways there. He's talking about, you know, now we shouldn't have these metal tariffs, but the implication is the metal tariffs were good 30 years ago.

But the implication about the 90s, I mean, when people talk about NAFTA screwed people, what they mean is that U.S. steel workers ended up having to compete with steel workers from abroad selling cheaper steel. So in a way, he's having it both ways there. He's talking about, you know, now we shouldn't have these metal tariffs, but the implication is the metal tariffs were good 30 years ago.

I think you kind of need to admit that, you know, a lot more people in the U.S. work in industries that consume steel and aluminum than in industries that make primary steel and aluminum. And so you want cheaper materials. There's, you know, a few steel workers that'll be bad for, but there's a lot more auto workers that's good for.

I think you kind of need to admit that, you know, a lot more people in the U.S. work in industries that consume steel and aluminum than in industries that make primary steel and aluminum. And so you want cheaper materials. There's, you know, a few steel workers that'll be bad for, but there's a lot more auto workers that's good for.

I think you kind of need to admit that, you know, a lot more people in the U.S. work in industries that consume steel and aluminum than in industries that make primary steel and aluminum. And so you want cheaper materials. There's, you know, a few steel workers that'll be bad for, but there's a lot more auto workers that's good for.

And I think we're about to get an object lesson in that that makes clear, you know, if you have tariffs and they make auto parts more expensive, that's not going to protect the U.S. auto industry. It's actually going to make the U.S. auto industry less competitive. It's going to be bad for workers.

And I think we're about to get an object lesson in that that makes clear, you know, if you have tariffs and they make auto parts more expensive, that's not going to protect the U.S. auto industry. It's actually going to make the U.S. auto industry less competitive. It's going to be bad for workers.

And I think we're about to get an object lesson in that that makes clear, you know, if you have tariffs and they make auto parts more expensive, that's not going to protect the U.S. auto industry. It's actually going to make the U.S. auto industry less competitive. It's going to be bad for workers.

But I think you end up wanting, you know, a really clear, crisp pro-trade message there because you end up with, you know, not only are we friendlier with the world and not picking fights for no reason, we're also richer if we open ourselves up to trade.

But I think you end up wanting, you know, a really clear, crisp pro-trade message there because you end up with, you know, not only are we friendlier with the world and not picking fights for no reason, we're also richer if we open ourselves up to trade.

But I think you end up wanting, you know, a really clear, crisp pro-trade message there because you end up with, you know, not only are we friendlier with the world and not picking fights for no reason, we're also richer if we open ourselves up to trade.

Yeah, I mean, I thought Ben Dreyfus had this right, that Bucolet is dressed like the manager of a Zara in the Valley who goes to the food court and asks 19-year-old girls whether they've ever considered modeling. That's creepy. That's a creepy image. Adult braces, maybe. Yeah, but he looked creepy. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I thought Ben Dreyfus had this right, that Bucolet is dressed like the manager of a Zara in the Valley who goes to the food court and asks 19-year-old girls whether they've ever considered modeling. That's creepy. That's a creepy image. Adult braces, maybe. Yeah, but he looked creepy. Yeah.