Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant

You can bet on that.

Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

I'm Josh, and there's Chuck, and Jerry's here too, pushing us around as usual for this episode of Stuff You Should Know.

Our second episode for us of the new year, and why didn't we save like a pretty happy one to get going with?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Probably because we knew we were going to be so bummed out after Jonestown.

We needed something that was a pick-me-up.

And what's crazy is this story actually is a pick-me-up compared to Jonestown.

Boy, that's tough to parse out.

So thank you to Livia for diving into this tough story.

And also this episode, we want to issue a very big trigger warning because in it we are going to talk about a very bad man and some of the bad things he did, which included sexual assault and some of which were with with minors.

So trigger warning.

Know that going in.

There's no way around it.

There's very few stories that have like a clear-cut villain, but this is one of them.

And the villain who's also the center of our story, the person at the center of our story, is a man named Ken Rex McElroy.

Which, I mean, all you need to hear is that name, really, I think.

And it kind of just puts a weird chill down your spine that you can't quite identify yet.

Yeah, this is a story that you may have heard of before.