Josh Clark

He had thrown off the shackles placed on him.

He'd gotten out from under the thumb of the leader of the Nation of Islam.

But that also unfortunately meant he had no place in the Nation of Islam any longer.

Yeah.

And just one little aside about that, Chuck, him saying a case of chickens coming home to roost, there is so much more background and subtext to it and all the stuff he was saying that led up to that.

But that's the pull quote, right?

That's the thing that you just pull and it sounds like a pretty awful thing to say, or at least heartless.

But if you go back and read that stuff, you find there's so much more context to the stuff he's quoted for.

And like you said, kind of toward the beginning, a lot of it seems pretty reasonable when you listen to the words he's saying.

Yeah.

I was disappointed in Muhammad Ali because he was basically like, oh, that sucks, man.

Sorry.

See ya.

Yeah.

So now this is the break.

This is the schism.

And at this point now, the nation of Islam is doing everything they can to mock and discredit Malcolm X and say that he was a turncoat and a Benedict Arnold and a hypocrite.

And Malcolm X just gave it right back.

One of the first things he did was to tell the media that Elijah Muhammad had kids out of wedlock with teenage girls that were around him.

He said that he had eight kids with six teenage secretaries.