Josh Clark

Previous to this, you know, you had the Putt-Putt, which just had the sort of regular obstacles.

You had the Tom Thumb, which had...

kind of more outrageous whimsy, but still things weren't moving.

And these are the guys that brought in these rotating windmill blades or ramps that move back and forth.

And they really kind of kicked that to the next level.

And they went into business big time.

They started mass producing these things, like the actual components, and sold a ton of them all over the world.

Yeah, I think like 5,000 courses.

Yeah.

Which is pretty impressive.

They're the ones who came up with what we think of now as like miniature golf and goofy golf with the moving stuff.

The clown mouth.

Don't forget the clown mouth that opens and closes.

Or, yeah, like you say, a windmill.

So it's kind of interesting that Don Clayton brought miniature golf back to its –

roots of being a lot more like regular golf.

And then very shortly after that, branched off the Lomas, who brought it back to that tom-thumb roots.

So that whole thing, the evolution of miniature golf happened twice in just the same way.

Isn't that interesting?

Yeah, and it also came back full circle in the 90s with a return to sort of that original miniature golf because real golfers, people like Jack Nicklaus, started to get involved.