Josh Gay

So when people are arguing that immigrants are draining local budgets, the long-term accounting doesn't support that.

It doesn't support their claims.

And we know that the right's going to run away from the data.

They're going to run away from the numbers.

And they're going to maybe say, hey, look, we're going to put these numbers, if they come to light, they're going to put them in buckets.

They're going to say, well, it's one thing, not the other.

But again, Cato was detailed here, and I hate to give them their credit.

But when we are talking about someone who should be on Donald Trump's side, directly contradicting his numbers, his talking points, I want to highlight that.

And the Cato Institute goes through all of the categories.

And the costs are real, right?

Education, all of that.

We're still seeing the immigrants paying more tax contributions than the costs over time.

Now, I will show what the right is going to say that they are going to point to in this whole study.

Cato highlights the mismatch between where taxes are collected and where the services are provided.

I already said that a lot of these costs are occurring at the state and local level, while the biggest tax revenue is going to the federal government.

That's a federalism issue.

That's an issue between...

our federal government and our state governments.

It's a budgeting issue.

And so when you see the Trump administration hammering these blue states, he's not dealing with fact.