Josh Halliday

And then he got the seat in Leigh near Wigan, where he was elected in 2001.

And then he had various government posts under both Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, you know, rising to some of the top posts in government.

He was health secretary for a time.

And then later culture secretary.

Yeah, well, Andy Burnham has said previously that all roads lead to and from Hillsborough for him.

On the day of the semi-final itself, he had friends who were there at Hillsborough.

He describes a sort of frantic waiting for news, desperation.

He's spoken about this sense of a police cover-up and the government being against the people, a city that felt a terrible injustice for decades.

So it's personal for him?

It's really personal, yeah.

So when he spoke at Anfield on the 20th anniversary, he was there as the representative for the UK government.

So it was an incredibly tricky position for him to be in personally because of the deep hurt that many in Liverpool felt towards the government still at that time.

That's right.

But it's a very striking moment when he starts to talk.

The crowd starts chanting over the top of him, Justice for the 96.

And he stops and steps back and sort of lets that moment unfold.

Justice for the 96!

And I think in those kind of seconds was kind of a pivotal moment in his political career because he was hearing people, he was there facing up to it as a member of the government of the day.

The following day he spoke to cabinet in government and basically kick-started the process for excavating the

Police records exposing the injustice and the cover-up.