Josh Halliday

You can't vote with your conscience, you've got to vote with the party.

I don't think he likes the Westminster bubble culture.

But I think, you know, his real departure for him was the Brexit campaign.

And, you know, what he felt was, you know, it was completely lacklustre remain campaign that didn't speak to majority of people in the country.

So there's a particular moment in the Brexit campaign in 2016 where he was an ardent remainer.

He wanted to make a speech about the emotional pull of remain and why we should stay within the EU campaign.

And as he tells it, he was basically given no support for making this statement at all by the official Remain campaign.

They wanted to keep it strictly on economics.

Don't stray into like the emotional reasons for staying within the EU.

But I mean, what Andy Burnham says is that no one was making this kind of emotional case, combating this nationalism in large swathes of the north of England, which ended up voting for Brexit.

And he kind of felt really worried about where the country was going and he sort of lost faith in the ability of the Labour Party particularly to speak to ordinary working class people.

The promise to end homelessness was a big part of his initial campaign.

And it got off to what seemed to be a decent start.

There was a campaign called A Bed Every Night, particularly when temperatures dropped below freezing, every person who was homeless would be guaranteed a bed for the night.

That later evolved and it was going well.

And then COVID sort of seemed to blow everything out of the water.

He had other big pledges as well, one of which is called the B Network, which is Manchester's

Bright, shiny, new, yellow buses, electrified buses, which now buzz around the city, around the region, actually.

One goes past the end of my street.

You know, one of those very tangible things that you can point to and say, wow, you know, credit, he's actually done something.