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And or if they won't do that, Congress will. needs to legislate and make clear district courts in the usual matter of things do not have the ability to issue these kind of injunctions.
And or if they won't do that, Congress will. needs to legislate and make clear district courts in the usual matter of things do not have the ability to issue these kind of injunctions.
Yeah, and this is the problem, by the way. I mean, when you've got an injunction like this, national injunctions like this, it really takes the teeth out of appellate review. I mean, this is important to understand because it's like, well, sure. I mean, the remedy for this is, yeah, you go appeal it. So we have an appellate system. That all works very well. We're proud of our court system.
Yeah, and this is the problem, by the way. I mean, when you've got an injunction like this, national injunctions like this, it really takes the teeth out of appellate review. I mean, this is important to understand because it's like, well, sure. I mean, the remedy for this is, yeah, you go appeal it. So we have an appellate system. That all works very well. We're proud of our court system.
But if you can, at the district court level, if you can say, I'm just going to stop what you're doing nationally, and I'm going to keep it stopped all while you're appealing, boy, that really undermines the authority of appellate courts. It really undermines the authority of the Supreme Court. So to answer your question, Charlie,
But if you can, at the district court level, if you can say, I'm just going to stop what you're doing nationally, and I'm going to keep it stopped all while you're appealing, boy, that really undermines the authority of appellate courts. It really undermines the authority of the Supreme Court. So to answer your question, Charlie,
I certainly would think appetite would be growing on Capitol Hill for a reform of this kind, because what we are seeing is really, it is unprecedented. We saw this in the first Trump term. We saw a number of these district courts, nationwide injunctions, but not on this scale ranging over all of these topics. It really is a form of judicial resistance.
I certainly would think appetite would be growing on Capitol Hill for a reform of this kind, because what we are seeing is really, it is unprecedented. We saw this in the first Trump term. We saw a number of these district courts, nationwide injunctions, but not on this scale ranging over all of these topics. It really is a form of judicial resistance.
And I think they are outside the bounds of their authority. I'm really concerned about it.
And I think they are outside the bounds of their authority. I'm really concerned about it.
Well, I was just going to jump in with another quote from the Supreme Court in years past, which says that the president is the sole organ, that's the quote, sole organ of foreign policy in the United States under our Constitution. So again, let's be clear about this. What these district courts are doing is not just disregarding the written text of the Constitution.
Well, I was just going to jump in with another quote from the Supreme Court in years past, which says that the president is the sole organ, that's the quote, sole organ of foreign policy in the United States under our Constitution. So again, let's be clear about this. What these district courts are doing is not just disregarding the written text of the Constitution.
That's clear of not been bad enough. They're disregarding their own superior courts who said over and over, when it comes to foreign affairs, for example, that's why we have an executive. That's why... The founders created an executive because you don't run foreign policy by committee. That's Congress. Congress is the power of the purse. You don't run it by court.
That's clear of not been bad enough. They're disregarding their own superior courts who said over and over, when it comes to foreign affairs, for example, that's why we have an executive. That's why... The founders created an executive because you don't run foreign policy by committee. That's Congress. Congress is the power of the purse. You don't run it by court.
You run it by an executive who's accountable to the people. And I'm concerned that these decisions by these lower courts are undermining that. They're disregarding Supreme Court doctrine. And if they persist in this, it's going to create a real crisis.
You run it by an executive who's accountable to the people. And I'm concerned that these decisions by these lower courts are undermining that. They're disregarding Supreme Court doctrine. And if they persist in this, it's going to create a real crisis.
You know, we're seeing this everywhere, Charlie, in all these states, and we're seeing it across the board.
You know, we're seeing this everywhere, Charlie, in all these states, and we're seeing it across the board.
I mean, I just think if I sat there in the Congress and the joint address session, the State of the Union, so to speak, a few weeks ago, and watched the Democrats not just interrupt the president, which would have been bad enough and extremely rude and frankly, unprofessional and childish, they tried to disrupt the proceedings. And I think it was even worse than it appeared on TV, because as
I mean, I just think if I sat there in the Congress and the joint address session, the State of the Union, so to speak, a few weeks ago, and watched the Democrats not just interrupt the president, which would have been bad enough and extremely rude and frankly, unprofessional and childish, they tried to disrupt the proceedings. And I think it was even worse than it appeared on TV, because as